ᐅ Floor plan design, two full stories, approximately 130–140 square meters without a basement
Created on: 29 Jul 2021 16:45
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prm2021
Hello everyone,
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
prm2021 schrieb:
to get as close as possible to the “magic” limit of 35 sqm (375 sq ft).I’m curious who actually set this “magic limit” of 35—for what purpose, anyway? It doesn’t make sense if you can’t even say where the missing 3 sqm (32 sq ft) to reach 35 are supposed to be found?!Besides… you probably don’t want to build with them anyway, so just have your architect extend the house by 30cm (12 inches).
Merry Christmas to everyone.
We have been trying to start a new project with the current architect, but we are not satisfied yet.
I had a template from Medley with 126 m² (1,356 sq ft), but it is a 1.5-story design, and I had to reduce the ground floor (we would like to have two full floors).
The kitchen we saw and want to include in the floor plan is 3.6 m (12 feet) long, and the bathroom upstairs measures 3.3 m (11 feet) long and 3 m (10 feet) wide. I think we need to extend the current kitchen layout by about 45 cm (18 inches) and the bathroom layout by about 80 cm (31 inches). I want to have a technical room of 10 m² (108 sq ft) as well (the built-in closet must fit, too). Is it feasible to keep the house within 130 m² (1,399 sq ft)? Thank you.
We have been trying to start a new project with the current architect, but we are not satisfied yet.
I had a template from Medley with 126 m² (1,356 sq ft), but it is a 1.5-story design, and I had to reduce the ground floor (we would like to have two full floors).
The kitchen we saw and want to include in the floor plan is 3.6 m (12 feet) long, and the bathroom upstairs measures 3.3 m (11 feet) long and 3 m (10 feet) wide. I think we need to extend the current kitchen layout by about 45 cm (18 inches) and the bathroom layout by about 80 cm (31 inches). I want to have a technical room of 10 m² (108 sq ft) as well (the built-in closet must fit, too). Is it feasible to keep the house within 130 m² (1,399 sq ft)? Thank you.
prm2021 schrieb:
We need to start the project, and it will initially be a combination of Medley and a few semi-detached houses between 125-130 sqm (1,345-1,400 sq ft). I am still looking for more ideas for the entrance, cloakroom, hallway, and guest WC. There aren’t many examples of such smaller houses.I’m not sure what surprises me more: how long you’ve been stuck at the starting line, or your belief that the "architect" will eventually make progress.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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11ant schrieb:
I’m not sure what surprises me more: how long you’ve been hesitating at the starting line or your belief that the "architect" will eventually make progress.The architect finally started listening to what I was saying 🙂. More important is to have a good structural engineer who is experienced with cost estimates. I attached pictures of the desired kitchen and bathroom (this time without a link). I need to raise the utility room and decide on the entrance, hallway, and a cloakroom with or without a window (Medley version). Or maybe a cloakroom and guest WC, something like the Raumwunder 100. Then the utility room has to be placed the other way.
Hello! While searching for the ideal floor plan, I have to give up the desired U-shaped spiral staircase due to the risk it poses to small children. I need to build stairs that are as safe as possible for children (around 4-5 years and 1-2 years old). Are stairs with landings somewhat safer? Of course, I would install double handrails on both sides. I’m willing to sacrifice a few square meters if it means the children are safer (and us as we get older). I found an example from a forum member—are these good, or could they be made safer? Thanks for the advice.
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Bertram10022 Jan 2022 18:49If your children are healthy and not disabled, they can safely go up and down any staircase. It might be a bit challenging at first, but countless generations have managed to navigate stairs of all kinds safely. I think you are exaggerating.
The key safety factors are whether the staircase is open or closed, and whether children can fall through the railing. Whether the staircase is straight or has a landing is actually not that important.
In fact, one could argue that a quarter-turn staircase can help stop a fall and is shorter and therefore safer on the straight parts. In that case, you would need a twice quarter-turn staircase with narrow balusters, a closed construction, and a safety mat at the bottom.
The key safety factors are whether the staircase is open or closed, and whether children can fall through the railing. Whether the staircase is straight or has a landing is actually not that important.
In fact, one could argue that a quarter-turn staircase can help stop a fall and is shorter and therefore safer on the straight parts. In that case, you would need a twice quarter-turn staircase with narrow balusters, a closed construction, and a safety mat at the bottom.
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