ᐅ Floor plan design, two full stories, approximately 130–140 square meters without a basement
Created on: 29 Jul 2021 16:45
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prm2021
Hello everyone,
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
We are planning to build a house on a 600 m2 (approximately 6,460 sq ft) plot with a west-facing approach (a dead-end street). Unfortunately, the garage can only be located on the west side (as shown in the picture).
I will soon discuss the preliminary design with the architect. According to the regulations in my country, the original project cannot be changed later on.
According to the zoning plan, we must build an enclosed garage (2 parking spaces per dwelling, with 50% of them in an enclosed garage). This increases our construction costs, so we have to reduce the “ideal” size of 150 m2 (approximately 1,615 sq ft) by about 10-15 m2 (approximately 110-160 sq ft) and, of course, without a basement.
I have read many forums and found that the most important thing is that the living and dining rooms are not narrower than 4 meters (approximately 13 feet) and have at least 35 m2 (approximately 375 sq ft). We will spend 90% of our time there and in the kitchen.
We want an open kitchen facing east with as much natural light as possible (preferably in a two-row layout). We want the utility room to be at least 10 m2 (approximately 108 sq ft), the stairs to be as comfortable as possible without taking up too much space, and a guest toilet without a shower. In front of it, there would be a wardrobe (for an Ikea PAX depth 70 cm (27.5 inches)).
Upstairs, we would like natural light in the hallway, two children's rooms of about 13-14 m2 each (approximately 140-150 sq ft), facing south, and a bedroom facing northeast, where we need to place my wife’s Ikea PAX wardrobe measuring 200x70x240 cm (79x27.5x94 inches). In the bedroom, my wardrobe should also be placed, but it can be smaller than my wife’s.
I would like to build two full floors in a rectangular shape with a gabled roof, similar to Jaydee’s floor plan attached (of similar width and length), although her plan is not two full floors.
My wife would like two bathrooms or a guest WC with a shower. I’m assuring her that one bathroom with two sinks will be enough.
I apologize for my poor German. I have been following your forum for months and have learned a lot. Thank you for any help.
Tolentino schrieb:
Assumption: Preliminary design = initial planning?Ah yes, your guess is correct, thank you.Tolentino schrieb:
This is supposed to happen in Germany too, that some general contractors won’t start without plans, meaning they don’t want to have their own draftsmen under their control...The problem here (in Croatia) is that the original poster (unfortunately on a lot tied to a general contractor) is struggling with the contractor’s draftsman, who is an absolute fool by all accounts: the draftsman’s proposals are all politely rated as “completely missing the point,” he slams doors shut without it even being apparent, etc. The OP tells the draftsman what he wants; to my knowledge even in their shared native language (is that correct, or is there a deliberate misunderstanding between Croat and Serb here?). Then the draftsman draws something new, often ignoring “all” (very limited) previous lessons learned. When the OP then presents a verifiably buildable suggestion (because taken from a catalog house from Germany or Austria), the draftsman claims it is structurally impossible to implement. I already offered the OP at the end of August to help him with the drafting. Additionally,prm2021 schrieb:
Preliminary design in Croatia cannot be changed on significant points,which means that you cannot submit sketches with the building permit / planning permission application — the first shot has to be a hit. For this draftsman (for whom the Swabians have a humorous nickname), that is almost hopeless. @prm2021: Does the general contractor not have any previously built houses among his portfolio that could at least be copied 1:1 as a functioning solution?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Don’t make life harder than it needs to be: there have already been a few different options. Then it was supposed to become a third bedroom, and everything started over again.
Every home builder has a house that takes your requirements into account. Just take a look at Towns & Country, Viebrockhaus, or Heinz von Heiden, Team Massivhaus, Scanhaus Marlow, or Danwood. Each offers a house between 120 and 130 sqm (1300 and 1400 sq ft) that fits your plot and is suitable for 4 people.
Every home builder has a house that takes your requirements into account. Just take a look at Towns & Country, Viebrockhaus, or Heinz von Heiden, Team Massivhaus, Scanhaus Marlow, or Danwood. Each offers a house between 120 and 130 sqm (1300 and 1400 sq ft) that fits your plot and is suitable for 4 people.
11ant schrieb:
@prm2021[/USER]: Does the general contractor have any houses among those already built that could at least be copied 1:1 as a working solution?Excuse me, who is the general contractor? 🤨 Do you mean the architect?
ypg schrieb:
Don’t make it more complicated than it needs to be: there have already been a few options. Then it was supposed to be a third bedroom, and everything started over again.
Every home builder has a house design that meets your requirements. Just take a look at Towns & Country, Viebrockhaus or Heinz von Heiden, Team Massivhaus, Scanhaus Marlow, or Danwood. Each offers houses between 120 and 130 sqm (1,290 and 1,400 sq ft) that fit your lot and are suitable for 4 people. Thanks for the tips.
Gladly, but we are not in Germany...
Do you perhaps know exactly what kinds of houses these are and where to find them online?
There are very few smaller houses with 2 full floors.
Alternatively, should we look at examples with 1.5 stories and simply build them as full two-story homes?
prm2021 schrieb:
Sorry, who is GU? GU = General Contractor = contractor responsible for the complete house.
prm2021 schrieb:
Very glad, but we are not in Germany... "Very glad" = very nice, thanks to Google Translator...
prm2021 schrieb:
Do you perhaps know exactly what kind of houses these are and where to find them online? With both Hebel and Ytong kit houses, you should be able to find plans that can also be used for building permits / planning permission with other building materials.
prm2021 schrieb:
There are few smaller houses with 2 full floors.
Or let’s look at examples with 1.5 stories and simply build them as full two-story houses. You can do that well; the other way around would be difficult. If you change a 1.5-story house model into a two-story house model, you will of course get more square meters upstairs than in the “original.” With a “Raumwunder 100” from Town & Country, you could get about 120 m² (1,292 sq ft).
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
prm2021 schrieb:
There are few smaller houses with 2 full floors. The companies I mentioned all have exactly what you are looking for! As I wrote: they all offer urban villas, 2 stories, 120-130sqm (1,292-1,399 sq ft).
prm2021 schrieb:
Very happy, but we are not in Germany... You can find them online. Since you have internet access, just enter the company names into a search engine. Nowadays, anyone can do that, no matter what language they speak.
You can save the floor plans from anywhere, and that’s all you need.
prm2021 schrieb:
Do you perhaps know exactly what these houses are and where to find them online? Similar topics