Development Plan / Restrictions
Construction phase plan Hamburg S1O (single-story construction, integrated into surrounding buildings)
Plot size: 712m2 (7,662 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.3
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5m (16 ft) must remain clear of any construction on the north side
Edge development: no, garage/carport yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Client Requirements
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: city villa
Orientation: north-south
Fully basement
Number of residents: 2 adults, 1 child, 1 toddler
Guest stays per year: 5-10 overnight stays
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor: 90/80 m2 (970/860 sq ft)
Office: home office
Open floor plan
Rather modern construction style
Open kitchen, cooking island
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: roof terrace to maintain single-story appearance (no roof slopes)
Garage, carport: carport to the side behind the house
House Design
Designer: architect
What do you like most? Open layout, spacious entrance area, staircase, house type
What do you not like? Kitchen (too long and narrow), bedroom/walk-in closet (feels cramped, possibly replace walk-in closet with built-in wardrobe)
Price estimate from architect/planner: -
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 700,000€ (without landscaping)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If You Have to Give Up Anything, Which Details/Extensions
- Can give up: walk-in closet, pantry
- Cannot give up: open living kitchen, spacious entrance area
Why is the design like this now? First draft based on our spatial requirements
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Size, rooms, openness, no roof slopes, house shape
What is the main/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the first draft usable? Ideas for kitchen redesign/repositioning? Opinions on the bathroom?
Hello everyone,
We have received the first draft of our new single-family home from the architect.
Personally, we really like the house style visually, since it is a city villa without roof slopes but does not look bulky and fits well into the Hamburg cityscape.
The architect has fulfilled most of our wishes, but the entire kitchen area is definitely still problematic, as it is too narrow and long. Due to the house shape, widening the kitchen is unfortunately not possible without affecting the light-flooded entrance area or making the house wider (which we would prefer but cannot due to the plot’s dimensions, as a 2.75m (9 ft) distance to the boundary has already been planned on both sides). Originally, we planned a pantry accessible through the kitchen front (yes, a somewhat modern convenience) placed on the north side of the kitchen, but this would block the light axis in that area and make the northern side windows redundant.
Furthermore, the bathroom on the upper floor is under discussion. Although we like the idea of a separate toilet, the shower and washbasin area may make the room feel smaller overall, even though it is quite large.
The upper-floor bedroom is also not perfect yet. We wanted a separate walk-in closet, but due to limited space on the upper floor (single-story design without roof slopes), the bedroom feels relatively small and we would prefer it to be a bit more spacious. The children’s rooms are generous enough.
The house has quite a few (somewhat narrow) windows, and we are considering whether fewer but wider windows would make more sense.
This is a first draft developed based on our space requirements. We would very much appreciate your initial impressions to help us decide whether this can be developed further or if we should rethink the design.
If I have forgotten anything above, I will gladly provide more info later.
Thank you very much.
Construction phase plan Hamburg S1O (single-story construction, integrated into surrounding buildings)
Plot size: 712m2 (7,662 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.3
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5m (16 ft) must remain clear of any construction on the north side
Edge development: no, garage/carport yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Client Requirements
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: city villa
Orientation: north-south
Fully basement
Number of residents: 2 adults, 1 child, 1 toddler
Guest stays per year: 5-10 overnight stays
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor: 90/80 m2 (970/860 sq ft)
Office: home office
Open floor plan
Rather modern construction style
Open kitchen, cooking island
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: roof terrace to maintain single-story appearance (no roof slopes)
Garage, carport: carport to the side behind the house
House Design
Designer: architect
What do you like most? Open layout, spacious entrance area, staircase, house type
What do you not like? Kitchen (too long and narrow), bedroom/walk-in closet (feels cramped, possibly replace walk-in closet with built-in wardrobe)
Price estimate from architect/planner: -
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 700,000€ (without landscaping)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If You Have to Give Up Anything, Which Details/Extensions
- Can give up: walk-in closet, pantry
- Cannot give up: open living kitchen, spacious entrance area
Why is the design like this now? First draft based on our spatial requirements
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Size, rooms, openness, no roof slopes, house shape
What is the main/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the first draft usable? Ideas for kitchen redesign/repositioning? Opinions on the bathroom?
Hello everyone,
We have received the first draft of our new single-family home from the architect.
Personally, we really like the house style visually, since it is a city villa without roof slopes but does not look bulky and fits well into the Hamburg cityscape.
The architect has fulfilled most of our wishes, but the entire kitchen area is definitely still problematic, as it is too narrow and long. Due to the house shape, widening the kitchen is unfortunately not possible without affecting the light-flooded entrance area or making the house wider (which we would prefer but cannot due to the plot’s dimensions, as a 2.75m (9 ft) distance to the boundary has already been planned on both sides). Originally, we planned a pantry accessible through the kitchen front (yes, a somewhat modern convenience) placed on the north side of the kitchen, but this would block the light axis in that area and make the northern side windows redundant.
Furthermore, the bathroom on the upper floor is under discussion. Although we like the idea of a separate toilet, the shower and washbasin area may make the room feel smaller overall, even though it is quite large.
The upper-floor bedroom is also not perfect yet. We wanted a separate walk-in closet, but due to limited space on the upper floor (single-story design without roof slopes), the bedroom feels relatively small and we would prefer it to be a bit more spacious. The children’s rooms are generous enough.
The house has quite a few (somewhat narrow) windows, and we are considering whether fewer but wider windows would make more sense.
This is a first draft developed based on our space requirements. We would very much appreciate your initial impressions to help us decide whether this can be developed further or if we should rethink the design.
If I have forgotten anything above, I will gladly provide more info later.
Thank you very much.
flymac schrieb:
According to what I read from the Hamburg building regulations, the two-thirds rule applies here.but the house does not fall under this. I wouldn't worry about it because flymac schrieb:
Construction phase plan Hamburg S1O (single-story construction, integrating into surrounding buildings)I was under the impression that the old construction phase plans are not easily accessible and would trust the architect on this.
ypg schrieb:
It seemed to me that the old construction phase plans are not really accessible, and I would trust the architect here. Of course, it might be that the construction phase plan is even older than the German federal state of Hamburg (1949).
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flymac schrieb:
Our original idea was to have a pantry accessible from the kitchen front (yes, I know, a modern convenience) and locate it on the north side of the kitchen. However, this would block the light axis in that area and make the north-facing side windows useless. That sounds rehearsed. Did the architect explain it to you like that?
Light axis or not – in this case, it wouldn’t be my top priority and it should give way to the pantry. Given the available width, you need to extend lengthwise to create sufficient space. A central entrance on the north side with a spacious entry area inevitably results in a kitchen that is not narrow. That’s why I would move away from this entrance and consider an entrance on the side instead, something like this:
(My software is quite old and can’t perfectly represent everything. The architect needs to take care of the design – I’m focusing on the layout only.)
flymac schrieb:
The bathroom upstairs is also still under discussion. We like the idea of a separate toilet, but the shower and washbasin area might make the entire room feel smaller, even though it’s actually large. I wouldn’t do that either. The room is too narrow for the toilet, and it would feel cramped. There are plenty of beautiful bathrooms without a hidden toilet. You can’t afford to be wasteful with space upstairs anyway.
flymac schrieb:
The bedroom upstairs is also not perfect yet because we wanted a separate walk-in closet. But due to limited space upstairs (single-story design without sloped ceilings), the bedroom is quite small and we would prefer it to be a bit more spacious. The kids’ rooms are generously sized, though. In my opinion, the room is large enough. Try rotating the bed. That way, the walk-in closet can grow at least a little. I left the small projection (“pups”) opposite the bed to show where the wall originally was. Also, it’s more comfortable if the door isn’t right next to the headboard. The west-facing window might need to shift slightly north or be removed entirely. What bothers me more is the complicated partitioning of the kids’ rooms, plus the bedroom located in the south where the kids would actually benefit more from it. The whole arrangement still feels quite awkward.
flymac schrieb:
If I have forgotten anything upstairs, I will add it later. Yes, the carport or parking spaces seem underconsidered, especially in relation to windows or light wells. I would always have those drawn in to avoid nasty surprises later.
You might also consider placing the staircase on the north side:
This makes the layout upstairs smoother and more sensible. Kids get the light, the bathroom faces the morning sun, and the parents just have to deal with whatever’s left.
By the way, you should think carefully about the partition wall in the living room. On paper it looks tidy, but in reality it’s just a “darkening wall.” It’s absolutely worth reviewing in 3D!
Thank you for your input, Katja!
K a t j a schrieb:That’s an approach we have already considered, but then the house looks quite unattractive from the street side, and we want it to be visually appealing. We’ll try the current concept with a pantry on the north side and a kitchen smaller than now, but with a U-shape layout instead of a freestanding island.
That sounds rehearsed to me. Did the architect explain it to you that way? Light axis or not – in this case, that wouldn’t be my top priority and it should give way to the pantry. Given the fixed width, you will need to extend in length to create enough space. A central entrance on the north side with a generous entry area inevitably results in a kitchen that is not narrow. That’s why I would move away from this entrance and consider an entrance on the side instead.
K a t j a schrieb:I agree completely. Our current bathroom is almost the same size and has an open layout, which we like.
Yes, I wouldn’t do that either. The room is too narrow for the T-shape and it would feel oppressive. There are also beautiful bathrooms without hidden toilets. You can’t afford to waste space upstairs either.
K a t j a schrieb:Thanks for the suggestion. We will definitely rotate the bed; the question is the walk-in closet. We currently have one that is accessible through the bedroom but not as a passage room. We visited one yesterday similar to your sketch, and we didn’t like walking straight into the “tight” closet (possibly messy) when entering.
In my opinion, the room is big enough. Try rotating the bed. The walk-in closet can then grow slightly. I left the “little protrusion” opposite to show where the wall was originally. Also, it’s more comfortable if the door isn’t right next to the headboard. The west-facing window would need to be shifted slightly toward the north or removed entirely. What bothers me more is the fiddling with the kids’ room walls, plus the bedroom in the south, where the children would actually benefit more. It all still feels quite disjointed.
K a t j a schrieb:Could you elaborate on that? If we place the garage along the eastern boundary behind the house, does that interfere with windows or light wells?
Yes, the carport or parking spaces still seem undecided. Especially in relation to windows or light wells. I would always make sure these are included in the drawings. Otherwise, you could end up with unpleasant surprises afterward.
K a t j a schrieb:We don’t want that anyway—that was the architect’s suggestion. Some friends have it like that, and I miss the open feeling in the room.
By the way, you should think carefully about the partition wall in the living room. On paper, it looks quite attractive, but in reality, that’s basically a "darkening wall." You definitely need to see it in 3D!
K a t j a schrieb:
By the way, you should think carefully about the partition wall in the living room. It looks quite nice on paper, but in reality, it just acts like a "darkening wall." You definitely need to check this in 3D! What exactly does it darken? As it stands now, there is a full glass wall drawn on the side, so nothing should actually be darkened there.
ypg schrieb:
What exactly is it blocking? On the plans, there is a full glass wall shown on the side, so nothing would be blocked there. In the morning, when the sun is in the east, the living room gets darker. However, my concern was less about the light and more about the feeling of space. With these kinds of partition walls, it usually only looks nice on paper. Just imagine the view from the terrace back into the living room – with and without...
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