Development Plan / Restrictions
Construction phase plan Hamburg S1O (single-story construction, integrated into surrounding buildings)
Plot size: 712m2 (7,662 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.3
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5m (16 ft) must remain clear of any construction on the north side
Edge development: no, garage/carport yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Client Requirements
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: city villa
Orientation: north-south
Fully basement
Number of residents: 2 adults, 1 child, 1 toddler
Guest stays per year: 5-10 overnight stays
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor: 90/80 m2 (970/860 sq ft)
Office: home office
Open floor plan
Rather modern construction style
Open kitchen, cooking island
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: roof terrace to maintain single-story appearance (no roof slopes)
Garage, carport: carport to the side behind the house
House Design
Designer: architect
What do you like most? Open layout, spacious entrance area, staircase, house type
What do you not like? Kitchen (too long and narrow), bedroom/walk-in closet (feels cramped, possibly replace walk-in closet with built-in wardrobe)
Price estimate from architect/planner: -
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 700,000€ (without landscaping)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If You Have to Give Up Anything, Which Details/Extensions
- Can give up: walk-in closet, pantry
- Cannot give up: open living kitchen, spacious entrance area
Why is the design like this now? First draft based on our spatial requirements
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Size, rooms, openness, no roof slopes, house shape
What is the main/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the first draft usable? Ideas for kitchen redesign/repositioning? Opinions on the bathroom?
Hello everyone,
We have received the first draft of our new single-family home from the architect.
Personally, we really like the house style visually, since it is a city villa without roof slopes but does not look bulky and fits well into the Hamburg cityscape.
The architect has fulfilled most of our wishes, but the entire kitchen area is definitely still problematic, as it is too narrow and long. Due to the house shape, widening the kitchen is unfortunately not possible without affecting the light-flooded entrance area or making the house wider (which we would prefer but cannot due to the plot’s dimensions, as a 2.75m (9 ft) distance to the boundary has already been planned on both sides). Originally, we planned a pantry accessible through the kitchen front (yes, a somewhat modern convenience) placed on the north side of the kitchen, but this would block the light axis in that area and make the northern side windows redundant.
Furthermore, the bathroom on the upper floor is under discussion. Although we like the idea of a separate toilet, the shower and washbasin area may make the room feel smaller overall, even though it is quite large.
The upper-floor bedroom is also not perfect yet. We wanted a separate walk-in closet, but due to limited space on the upper floor (single-story design without roof slopes), the bedroom feels relatively small and we would prefer it to be a bit more spacious. The children’s rooms are generous enough.
The house has quite a few (somewhat narrow) windows, and we are considering whether fewer but wider windows would make more sense.
This is a first draft developed based on our space requirements. We would very much appreciate your initial impressions to help us decide whether this can be developed further or if we should rethink the design.
If I have forgotten anything above, I will gladly provide more info later.
Thank you very much.
Construction phase plan Hamburg S1O (single-story construction, integrated into surrounding buildings)
Plot size: 712m2 (7,662 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.3
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5m (16 ft) must remain clear of any construction on the north side
Edge development: no, garage/carport yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Client Requirements
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: city villa
Orientation: north-south
Fully basement
Number of residents: 2 adults, 1 child, 1 toddler
Guest stays per year: 5-10 overnight stays
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor: 90/80 m2 (970/860 sq ft)
Office: home office
Open floor plan
Rather modern construction style
Open kitchen, cooking island
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: roof terrace to maintain single-story appearance (no roof slopes)
Garage, carport: carport to the side behind the house
House Design
Designer: architect
What do you like most? Open layout, spacious entrance area, staircase, house type
What do you not like? Kitchen (too long and narrow), bedroom/walk-in closet (feels cramped, possibly replace walk-in closet with built-in wardrobe)
Price estimate from architect/planner: -
Personal price limit for the house including fittings: 700,000€ (without landscaping)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If You Have to Give Up Anything, Which Details/Extensions
- Can give up: walk-in closet, pantry
- Cannot give up: open living kitchen, spacious entrance area
Why is the design like this now? First draft based on our spatial requirements
Which wishes were fulfilled by the architect? Size, rooms, openness, no roof slopes, house shape
What is the main/fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Is the first draft usable? Ideas for kitchen redesign/repositioning? Opinions on the bathroom?
Hello everyone,
We have received the first draft of our new single-family home from the architect.
Personally, we really like the house style visually, since it is a city villa without roof slopes but does not look bulky and fits well into the Hamburg cityscape.
The architect has fulfilled most of our wishes, but the entire kitchen area is definitely still problematic, as it is too narrow and long. Due to the house shape, widening the kitchen is unfortunately not possible without affecting the light-flooded entrance area or making the house wider (which we would prefer but cannot due to the plot’s dimensions, as a 2.75m (9 ft) distance to the boundary has already been planned on both sides). Originally, we planned a pantry accessible through the kitchen front (yes, a somewhat modern convenience) placed on the north side of the kitchen, but this would block the light axis in that area and make the northern side windows redundant.
Furthermore, the bathroom on the upper floor is under discussion. Although we like the idea of a separate toilet, the shower and washbasin area may make the room feel smaller overall, even though it is quite large.
The upper-floor bedroom is also not perfect yet. We wanted a separate walk-in closet, but due to limited space on the upper floor (single-story design without roof slopes), the bedroom feels relatively small and we would prefer it to be a bit more spacious. The children’s rooms are generous enough.
The house has quite a few (somewhat narrow) windows, and we are considering whether fewer but wider windows would make more sense.
This is a first draft developed based on our space requirements. We would very much appreciate your initial impressions to help us decide whether this can be developed further or if we should rethink the design.
If I have forgotten anything above, I will gladly provide more info later.
Thank you very much.
I quickly calculated the figures before seeing the house or the drawings.
€3000 per square meter (approximately $320 per square foot) plus a usable basement. That roughly adds up to €700,000 (about $740,000) just without additional construction-related costs.
But then I noticed that the basement includes finished living space, so it is within the thermal envelope, plus I saw/read about the roof terrace and the elaborate facade design. I don’t believe you will come close to staying within the budget.
Regarding the mentioned concerns:
I would never think about widening the kitchen but rather shortening it. Visually it is appealing, but in my opinion, it is a kitchen with long walking distances and thus not ergonomic. Kitchens should be designed like a workspace to minimize necessary travel distances.
I don’t think it will feel cramped. Maybe just plan for dressers on the short side and leave out the sidewall.
However, I view the roof terrace negatively, as it connects parents and child, resulting in a lack of privacy on both sides.
With modest and low northern German construction costs, I come to about €3500 per square meter (approximately $370 per square foot), including the basement, so 260 sqm (2800 sq ft) times €3500 would be around €900,000 ($950,000) excluding additional construction-related costs. If you calculate carefully and with some flexibility, then expect around €4000 per square meter (about $430 per square foot).
Based on recent experience, €700,000 will get you a standard house, brick-faced, 200 sqm (2150 sq ft), without a basement and without the extras like this huge window front, numerous window slits, and a roof terrace.
€3000 per square meter (approximately $320 per square foot) plus a usable basement. That roughly adds up to €700,000 (about $740,000) just without additional construction-related costs.
But then I noticed that the basement includes finished living space, so it is within the thermal envelope, plus I saw/read about the roof terrace and the elaborate facade design. I don’t believe you will come close to staying within the budget.
Regarding the mentioned concerns:
flymac schrieb:
The problematic area is definitely the entire kitchen because it is too narrow and long. Due to the house shape, it’s unfortunately not possible to widen the kitchen.
I would never think about widening the kitchen but rather shortening it. Visually it is appealing, but in my opinion, it is a kitchen with long walking distances and thus not ergonomic. Kitchens should be designed like a workspace to minimize necessary travel distances.
flymac schrieb:
Bedroom/dressing room (feels cramped, possibly replace the dressing area with a fitted wardrobe)
I don’t think it will feel cramped. Maybe just plan for dressers on the short side and leave out the sidewall.
However, I view the roof terrace negatively, as it connects parents and child, resulting in a lack of privacy on both sides.
With modest and low northern German construction costs, I come to about €3500 per square meter (approximately $370 per square foot), including the basement, so 260 sqm (2800 sq ft) times €3500 would be around €900,000 ($950,000) excluding additional construction-related costs. If you calculate carefully and with some flexibility, then expect around €4000 per square meter (about $430 per square foot).
Based on recent experience, €700,000 will get you a standard house, brick-faced, 200 sqm (2150 sq ft), without a basement and without the extras like this huge window front, numerous window slits, and a roof terrace.
I agree with @ypg, you won’t get this house built turnkey in Hamburg for €700,000.
Another point: Are you sure this is still considered a single-story house? By my rough calculation (94 sqm (1,012 sq ft) ground floor, 70 sqm (753 sq ft) first floor), the first floor has more than two-thirds of the ground floor living area, or does Hamburg have a different definition?
Another point: Are you sure this is still considered a single-story house? By my rough calculation (94 sqm (1,012 sq ft) ground floor, 70 sqm (753 sq ft) first floor), the first floor has more than two-thirds of the ground floor living area, or does Hamburg have a different definition?
I unfortunately have to say... lots of space, but in parts more than impractical.
The bedroom on the upper floor is problematic, especially the bed’s position with the headboard right next to the passageway. I also find the bathroom poorly designed, particularly the shower exit in front of the bathroom door.
I see the kitchen the same way as @ypg ... it will be hard to plan. And an island only 326 cm (128 inches) wide will be very tight, or even too narrow, for an island.
Home office in the basement – the basement room shows windows only 100 cm (39 inches) high. Is there supposed to be some kind of light well in front of them? Nothing like that is shown in the elevation drawings.
And I don’t see the project fitting the budget either. The basement, the brick cladding, and the overall large area are quite demanding. When I add it up, the ground floor comes to about 98 m² (1,055 ft²) and the upper floor about 76 m² (818 ft²), including stair areas. Without a basement, I would estimate at least 650,000 euros.
The bedroom on the upper floor is problematic, especially the bed’s position with the headboard right next to the passageway. I also find the bathroom poorly designed, particularly the shower exit in front of the bathroom door.
I see the kitchen the same way as @ypg ... it will be hard to plan. And an island only 326 cm (128 inches) wide will be very tight, or even too narrow, for an island.
Home office in the basement – the basement room shows windows only 100 cm (39 inches) high. Is there supposed to be some kind of light well in front of them? Nothing like that is shown in the elevation drawings.
And I don’t see the project fitting the budget either. The basement, the brick cladding, and the overall large area are quite demanding. When I add it up, the ground floor comes to about 98 m² (1,055 ft²) and the upper floor about 76 m² (818 ft²), including stair areas. Without a basement, I would estimate at least 650,000 euros.
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hanghaus202314 Nov 2024 10:36Is there a zoning plan or development plan? The architect planned beyond the budget.
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