ᐅ Floor plan after initial planning meeting, 140 m², one and a half stories
Created on: 6 Jan 2022 17:19
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Richooo
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 505
Slope: No
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 feet)
Edge development: not planned
Number of parking spaces: 2, paved only
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: clipped hip roof
Architectural style: modern, timeless
Orientation: south-east
Maximum height / limits: 4.5 m (15 feet) eaves height
Other requirements: photovoltaic panels only on one side
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: No, 1.5
Number of occupants, age: currently 2 (26-27), planned for two children
Space requirements on ground and upper floor: well, whatever 140 m² (1507 sq ft) allows. Upstairs: 2 children’s rooms, 1 bedroom, and an optional study
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Overnight guests per year: few
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4-6
Fireplace: yes
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Hello, I'm looking forward to your feedback. We had the first planning meeting today and now have the first sketches. Most of what we had planned beforehand has been implemented.
What we especially like:
the open living concept downstairs, which makes very efficient use of space.
we also like the bedroom upstairs. When both children are here, the niche can be used openly as a study or, if needed, separated by a drywall partition to create an additional full room.
What is not ideal:
The location of the bathroom downstairs is not perfect, but we couldn’t improve it without either
A) adding a hallway
B) losing space on the south side
The walls there will also be made of calcium silicate blocks to improve sound insulation somewhat. Generally, we are an open family, and visitors who don’t like it can just go upstairs.
So this works for us.
Another less ideal aspect is the location of the fireplace. It comes out of the clipped side of the roof here. But it’s okay, not a deal breaker.
I’m looking forward to your feedback!
Plot size: 505
Slope: No
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 feet)
Edge development: not planned
Number of parking spaces: 2, paved only
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: clipped hip roof
Architectural style: modern, timeless
Orientation: south-east
Maximum height / limits: 4.5 m (15 feet) eaves height
Other requirements: photovoltaic panels only on one side
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: No, 1.5
Number of occupants, age: currently 2 (26-27), planned for two children
Space requirements on ground and upper floor: well, whatever 140 m² (1507 sq ft) allows. Upstairs: 2 children’s rooms, 1 bedroom, and an optional study
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Overnight guests per year: few
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4-6
Fireplace: yes
________
Hello, I'm looking forward to your feedback. We had the first planning meeting today and now have the first sketches. Most of what we had planned beforehand has been implemented.
What we especially like:
the open living concept downstairs, which makes very efficient use of space.
we also like the bedroom upstairs. When both children are here, the niche can be used openly as a study or, if needed, separated by a drywall partition to create an additional full room.
What is not ideal:
The location of the bathroom downstairs is not perfect, but we couldn’t improve it without either
A) adding a hallway
B) losing space on the south side
The walls there will also be made of calcium silicate blocks to improve sound insulation somewhat. Generally, we are an open family, and visitors who don’t like it can just go upstairs.
So this works for us.
Another less ideal aspect is the location of the fireplace. It comes out of the clipped side of the roof here. But it’s okay, not a deal breaker.
I’m looking forward to your feedback!
I have given my honest feedback and opinion.
If a door doesn’t “fit,” the design should be adjusted so that it does. Why restrict yourself on purpose? Currently, we don’t have a door between the hallway and living area because the steel was missing. After cooking, the smell lingers in the upstairs hallway for half a day. Simply because the ventilation system is not designed for backdraft areas and so forth. I would strongly advise against that.
Noise is also an issue. Watching a movie in the evening while children need to sleep? Visitors and children going to bed? They hear every word. In the morning, the coffee grinder hits everyone’s eardrums immediately.
Start over with a clear needs analysis instead of sugarcoating makeshift solutions. If it didn’t fit, calling it a “blind spot” is okay. If you need a separate room, build one. How do you imagine working in a home office if, for example, someone is sick and needs to stay in bed?
That would be basically unacceptable to me.
Then it should be properly integrated into a room concept on all levels and not just shrugged off with “it will work somehow.” That’s why you build! If this were a renovation of a 1930s building, I would understand. But if you have full control over everything?
You don’t put a toilet next to the cooking area. Period. You would have to have very unusual preferences, because there are no objective or subjective reasons to allow or defend that. And I guess you don’t like people much either, right? When I am at friends’ houses and need to take care of business, I use the toilet. Period. I don’t ask if it’s upstairs when it’s urgent. This will lead to awkward situations that are so easily avoidable now.
If that’s your goal, the result will certainly be something you can spin positively. Carry on. Even for just 300k, I believe more ambition is warranted.
Richooo schrieb:
1) Exactly, there is indeed no door planned. It wouldn’t fit there anyway. Besides, I consider the hallway wasted space. There should be enough room for a small wardrobe and a bench. That space is sufficient for that. The door area itself should be quite bright thanks to the window and a large glass element next to the door on the ground floor. We are still considering adding a window upstairs. But I wouldn’t mind it without one either.
If a door doesn’t “fit,” the design should be adjusted so that it does. Why restrict yourself on purpose? Currently, we don’t have a door between the hallway and living area because the steel was missing. After cooking, the smell lingers in the upstairs hallway for half a day. Simply because the ventilation system is not designed for backdraft areas and so forth. I would strongly advise against that.
Noise is also an issue. Watching a movie in the evening while children need to sleep? Visitors and children going to bed? They hear every word. In the morning, the coffee grinder hits everyone’s eardrums immediately.
Richooo schrieb:
2) The space in the bedroom that you affectionately called the “blind gut” was something we wanted. We also had a floor plan where the home office (in a different position) was included, but that made all upstairs rooms feel small. This way my partner has a wide sightline and the room there (8 m2 (86 square feet)) can later be separated as a home office. For now, it will serve as a sports corner. A walk-in closet or something similar would of course also be possible.
Start over with a clear needs analysis instead of sugarcoating makeshift solutions. If it didn’t fit, calling it a “blind spot” is okay. If you need a separate room, build one. How do you imagine working in a home office if, for example, someone is sick and needs to stay in bed?
Richooo schrieb:
3) To my knowledge, the interior walls are made of aerated concrete.
That would be basically unacceptable to me.
Richooo schrieb:
4) Not quite, the house costs are about 300k plus additional building costs, but that’s ultimately irrelevant. It’s a lot of money. I had no idea where else the chimney could go so that it would be in a sensible place on the ground floor. That’s my problem. The site development plan requires that the chimney can only run along the middle axes of the roof (something to do with the maximum height that can stick out).
Then it should be properly integrated into a room concept on all levels and not just shrugged off with “it will work somehow.” That’s why you build! If this were a renovation of a 1930s building, I would understand. But if you have full control over everything?
Richooo schrieb:
5) If that happens, I’ll just tell our guest that they’re welcome to use the bathroom upstairs. Then they can have their peace and quiet for subsequent visits.
You don’t put a toilet next to the cooking area. Period. You would have to have very unusual preferences, because there are no objective or subjective reasons to allow or defend that. And I guess you don’t like people much either, right? When I am at friends’ houses and need to take care of business, I use the toilet. Period. I don’t ask if it’s upstairs when it’s urgent. This will lead to awkward situations that are so easily avoidable now.
Richooo schrieb:
Overall, you certainly won’t be able to create a floor plan that perfectly connects everything. That’s why I said “no big deal.” Compromises will have to be made in any case.
If that’s your goal, the result will certainly be something you can spin positively. Carry on. Even for just 300k, I believe more ambition is warranted.
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Nice-Nofret7 Jan 2022 09:52... and if none of the arguments mentioned so far matter to you – at least consider the resale value ... which for such a *specially* designed cabin is significantly lower than that of a well-planned house.
Richooo schrieb:
So far, there has naturally been a lot of criticism. But no constructive suggestion on how to better implement our request has been made yet.What was it again? “Being able to stir the soup in the pot from the toilet?” 🙄Seriously though, make a list of wishes and then present it to a qualified architect (draftsperson).
By the way: Is your name “Reultat” or should it rather be “Resultat”?
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