ᐅ Floor plan 9 x 11.30 m, for 4 people, including 2 home offices
Created on: 30 Dec 2021 15:24
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chrimu27
Hello everyone,
We would greatly appreciate feedback on our floor plan draft. Our appointment with the architect is still ahead, but we want to be well prepared 🙂
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 400 m², approx. 15x27 m (161 ft², approx. 49x89 ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) distance from the street and neighbors (resulting in a 9 m (30 ft) house width), max. 14 m (46 ft) towards the garden
Edge development: See attachment; viewed from the street, there is a semi-detached house on the left, a detached house on the right, and behind the garden a row of low bungalows
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof shape: Any
Style: Any
Orientation: Any
Maximum heights / limits: Eaves height 6.50 m (21 ft), ridge height 11.0 m (36 ft)
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic detached house with a gable roof
Basement, floors: With basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 2 children (planned)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors
Office: Family use or home office?: 1 office for permanent home office use, 1 workspace for part-time home office (could be integrated in another room)
Guest bedrooms per year
Open or closed layout: Open living/dining area, preferably L-shaped so that the kitchen is somewhat separated
Conservative or modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of dining seats: Space for a large table (8 people) desired
Fireplace
Music / stereo setup: Stereo system left and right of the TV
Balcony, rooftop terrace: Not needed
Garage, carport: Possibly carport
Utility garden, greenhouse
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you like especially? Why?
We wanted:
* Parents’ wing with walk-in closet as a “distribution space” (shift work: One should be able to sleep in the bedroom while the other uses the closet/bathroom)
* 2 children’s rooms, ideally acoustically separated by buffer rooms from each other and separated from the parents’ wing
* Living space in L-shape so you don’t always look directly into the kitchen from the sofa
* 2 workspaces
* In case of need, living on the ground floor later should be possible (office turns into bedroom, guest toilet to bathroom with shower)
* You should not have to walk through the living room to get upstairs.
The hard requirements seem to be met for now 😎
We tend to avoid the sun rather than seek it. Garden use mainly for grilling or sitting in the evening sun, possibly on a second terrace further back in the garden if the shade otherwise gets in the way.
What do you not like? Why?
We have no idea if what we planned will work and make sense, even if the hard criteria are met.
We are also unsure if the kitchen space is sufficient.
Price estimate from architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up something, which details / expansions
- could you give up:
- could you not give up:
Why is the design like it is now? For example
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your view?
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
We played a lot of Tetris, but have no idea if the rooms
a) feel right and
b) are practical.
What could be done in terms of design to enhance or improve the house?
Will the house be bright enough?
Thank you in advance for your input!
Happy New Year.
We would greatly appreciate feedback on our floor plan draft. Our appointment with the architect is still ahead, but we want to be well prepared 🙂
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 400 m², approx. 15x27 m (161 ft², approx. 49x89 ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) distance from the street and neighbors (resulting in a 9 m (30 ft) house width), max. 14 m (46 ft) towards the garden
Edge development: See attachment; viewed from the street, there is a semi-detached house on the left, a detached house on the right, and behind the garden a row of low bungalows
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof shape: Any
Style: Any
Orientation: Any
Maximum heights / limits: Eaves height 6.50 m (21 ft), ridge height 11.0 m (36 ft)
Other requirements
Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Classic detached house with a gable roof
Basement, floors: With basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 2 children (planned)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors
Office: Family use or home office?: 1 office for permanent home office use, 1 workspace for part-time home office (could be integrated in another room)
Guest bedrooms per year
Open or closed layout: Open living/dining area, preferably L-shaped so that the kitchen is somewhat separated
Conservative or modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island
Number of dining seats: Space for a large table (8 people) desired
Fireplace
Music / stereo setup: Stereo system left and right of the TV
Balcony, rooftop terrace: Not needed
Garage, carport: Possibly carport
Utility garden, greenhouse
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you like especially? Why?
We wanted:
* Parents’ wing with walk-in closet as a “distribution space” (shift work: One should be able to sleep in the bedroom while the other uses the closet/bathroom)
* 2 children’s rooms, ideally acoustically separated by buffer rooms from each other and separated from the parents’ wing
* Living space in L-shape so you don’t always look directly into the kitchen from the sofa
* 2 workspaces
* In case of need, living on the ground floor later should be possible (office turns into bedroom, guest toilet to bathroom with shower)
* You should not have to walk through the living room to get upstairs.
The hard requirements seem to be met for now 😎
We tend to avoid the sun rather than seek it. Garden use mainly for grilling or sitting in the evening sun, possibly on a second terrace further back in the garden if the shade otherwise gets in the way.
What do you not like? Why?
We have no idea if what we planned will work and make sense, even if the hard criteria are met.
We are also unsure if the kitchen space is sufficient.
Price estimate from architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump
If you had to give up something, which details / expansions
- could you give up:
- could you not give up:
Why is the design like it is now? For example
Standard design from the planner?
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your view?
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
We played a lot of Tetris, but have no idea if the rooms
a) feel right and
b) are practical.
What could be done in terms of design to enhance or improve the house?
Will the house be bright enough?
Thank you in advance for your input!
Happy New Year.
chrimu27 schrieb:
I’m not sure if direct links to Bien-Zenker are allowed. Basically, the standard floor plan without any extras looks like the "Evolution 162 V4" (Google leads directly to the floor plan), just without the bay window. No, such direct links are prohibited here. I’m not quite sure how the width should be interpreted, i.e., whether the bay window would be on top.
chrimu27 schrieb:
The design is based on the Evolution 162. The maximum 9m (30 feet) width limit here means that many of the larger floor plans with more rooms don’t work as well or become somewhat “narrow” in parts. The original floor plan is 9.42m (31 feet) wide. The design with the straight staircase with a single flight is based on that. What would be the basis for the floor plan shown in the site plan? Surely the original wouldn’t have the bathroom in an inconvenient location (?).
Without spending time or energy searching the manufacturer’s software for comparable options, here’s a general tip for anyone modifying catalog models: starting with a smaller base model and extending it is a better approach than trying to copy a model that is already close but has one or multiple problematic points.
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11ant schrieb:
The planning with the single-flight straight staircase is based on that. What would be the basis of the design shown in the site plan – the original probably doesn’t have the bathroom in such an inconvenient location, does it?
Without wanting to spend time or effort searching the manufacturer’s software for such options, just a general tip for everyone modifying catalog models: extending a smaller base model is a better starting point than making cuts or changes to a model that is already more or less “close” in one or several places.That one was drawn by us freely. The problem with staircases with landings or similar is simply that they divide the floor plan vertically on one side. If the parents’ wing is upstairs, it gets interrupted. If the staircase is downstairs, the kitchen can’t fit there. With a straight staircase, it works, but the rooms end up narrow in that area because you lose 2m (about 6.5 feet) from the staircase plus hallway.
The posted design actually meets all our requirements upstairs; downstairs, basically, as well, if we eliminate the bedroom. The storage room or the otherwise additional space in the office still seems a bit awkward…
Thanks for the tip about looking for smaller base models – we’ll check again!
Ysop*** schrieb:
I like the idea of buffer rooms 🙂 But I would definitely avoid placing beds directly next to bathrooms. When in use, they can be quite noisy. The child’s room adjoining both bathrooms could be at a disadvantage…Good point, thanks!
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