ᐅ Floor plan of 200 sqm with an integrated conservatory and gallery

Created on: 24 Apr 2015 23:53
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merlin83
Hello,

We are currently planning the following floor plan, and I am not sure if it all makes sense or if some elements might be problematic or simply do not fit well together in reality.

I am open to any advice and ideas and would be grateful for your input.

Note:

  • The toilet will be taken out of the sloped ceiling area (the bathroom still needs to be organized)
  • The dressing room still needs to be worked out.
  • Glazing will be adjusted and mostly added.

The house requires a waterproof concrete shell (white bathtub); the plot is flat. The eaves height is 4.25 meters (14 feet).

Thank you very much and best regards


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage mit Auto davor, offener Küchen-/Ess-/Wohnbereich, Diele, Bad, Treppe.

Grundriss eines Stockwerks eines Wohnhauses mit Schlafzimmer, Kinderzimmer, Bad und Flur.

Kellergeschoss-Grundriss mit Flur, Keller, Hobby, Technik und Treppe.


Luftbild eines Wohngebiets mit gelbem Kreis, rotem Baufenster und gelb/orangen Linien über Gebäuden.
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ypg
25 Apr 2015 12:57
I would also recommend checking the staircase. Your staircase is now similar to the "space-saving stairs" often found in terraced houses – it probably won't be suitable for this type of house.
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merlin83
25 Apr 2015 13:07
Manu1976 schrieb:


Have you ever lived in a house with an open gallery?
Unfortunately not; however, in my opinion, it looks great when the ground floor and upper floor create a bright, airy space. I do have concerns that it might be noisy later on. My wife, however, is not very enthusiastic when I bring up the idea of having a gallery (or rather, when I try to take it away from her).

There is no privacy there, especially with children. Cooking smells, conversations, TV noise, children’s yelling, kids’ music, etc., all carry perfectly from downstairs to upstairs and vice versa. Not to mention, you might be sitting comfortably in the conservatory with guests, enjoying a glass of wine, when the possibly moody child has to rush past the gallery in pajamas, a t-shirt, and a towel to get to the bathroom (or the other way around).
I would skip the gallery and instead try to plan an additional bathroom for the children. In my opinion, a gallery with children is wasted space.


Whether the gallery is that visible from the ground floor… hmm… good question?!

I would ask the architect to present an alternative that includes a children’s bathroom and a secluded TV area. What

Hello Manu

Thank you for your contribution. I have replied to your post in the quote (see above).

Best regards
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merlin83
25 Apr 2015 13:10
ypg schrieb:
I would also suggest checking the staircase. Your staircase now roughly resembles the "space-saving staircases" commonly found in townhouses – it probably does not suit the house.

Yes, the staircase will be converted into a half-turn staircase with a landing – we agreed on this in the last meeting.
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merlin83
25 Apr 2015 13:14
BeHaElJa schrieb:
We have 187 m² (2010 sq ft) and 4 full-size (~16 m² (172 sq ft)) rooms on the upper floor, and a master bedroom with an en-suite bathroom (is that the correct term?) on the ground floor, which also includes a small separate shower room accessible only from the bedroom. Our combined living-dining-kitchen area is 55 m² (592 sq ft) (you have to save space somewhere ). We also have a utility room of about 8 m² (86 sq ft) both on the ground floor and upstairs. The bathroom upstairs is smaller in our case.

If that meets your requirements and you have the budget for it, I think the floor plan is nice. One thing I would change is the dressing room and bedroom—rather use the bedroom as a "captive" room and make the dressing room a "bridge" to the bathroom. The route dressing room - bathroom - dressing room - bathroom etc. will happen more often than going back into the bedroom. Besides, it’s less disruptive to someone still sleeping in the bedroom while another is getting ready. Another point might be the kitchen workflow—why are there two stools at the counter? It doesn’t seem very functional.

Hello BeHaElJa,

Yes, the bedroom arrangement is definitely an important topic. I would also prefer to put the bed where the dressing room is now and convert the bedroom into a dressing room and master bathroom. However, my wife doesn’t want sloping ceilings in the bedroom. I think our knee wall would be around 1.30 meters (4 ft 3 in) high and the 2-meter (6 ft 7 in) ceiling height would be reached fairly early in the bedroom.
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ypg
25 Apr 2015 13:23
merlin83 schrieb:
Yes, the staircase will be converted into a staircase with a landing – we agreed on this in the last meeting.

However, this takes up more space. I don’t believe the spaciousness in the hallway areas will remain, so you should be prepared for a completely different floor plan to result from your instructions to the architect. That said, I get the impression you don’t fully know your room requirements yet, but rather have handed your architect the K. floor plan as a starting point. This means you may soon find that you won’t achieve your desired goal (namely a satisfactory design), but instead always end up with a poor copy of that house, which will require improvisation later on.

It’s easy to fall in love with a design, and often happens! But whether you definitely have to include everything is another question – that’s something you need to judge yourself.
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merlin83
11 Jun 2015 21:50
Hello everyone,

I would like to ask for your opinions (and suggestions for improvement) regarding the current designs:

First, I want to add the following information:

Having the kitchen in the southeast is a must for my wife because she likes to have morning sunlight in the kitchen and a view of the street (which is located to the east).

Regarding the suggestion from BeHaElJa to swap the walk-in closet and the bedroom: My wife insists on sleeping in a room without sloping ceilings and with floor-to-ceiling windows.

Children’s bathroom: We want to keep the shower on the ground floor as it is. My wife does not want to clean a third bathroom, and a laundry and shower room will be added later in the basement.

Basement: A waterproof concrete shell ("white tank") is mandatory, and excavation is expensive in the Stuttgart area... therefore, the architect proposed a partial basement. I think the house does not need more space anyway. The budget limit is slowly but surely being reached.

Current thoughts on changes: Please see my corrections in red. I would like to take Yvonne’s suggestion into account again and straighten the living room a bit, so the terrace also has fewer corners – this would also slightly enlarge the storage room (hallway).

For the bathroom, I would appreciate layout suggestions. The shower and sink should be spacious. I am less satisfied with the current arrangement of the fixtures and sanitary installations.

What do you think about the study? Does the furniture layout work? It should also serve, among other things, for the occasional reception of clients.

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