ᐅ Fitting a third room into a 40 sqm living area. Ideas?

Created on: 28 Dec 2017 17:45
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Badneuling26
Hello,

I came across this forum some time ago. Back then, it was mainly about planning our narrow bathroom, which is now a thing of the past (a long story).

Now my husband and I are planning to buy a condominium. However, the apartment currently has only two rooms. Since the living room is huge at 40m² (430 sq ft), we would like to create a third room here.

I have already prepared two sketches for this:

First of all: simply putting up a wall from the entrance to the fireplace (there is a fireplace opening behind the column) is not an option, as the windows face south and we would lose too much natural light. The covered balcony with 25m² (270 sq ft) faces east.

Regarding option 1:
The room would be rectangular in shape. The sofa would be positioned as drawn freehand. However, the wall would not end parallel to the right hallway wall as shown but would stop earlier so that when looking from the hallway into the living room, the office wall would be visible. Concern with this option:
The distance between the sofa and the TV is very large.

Advantage: we keep a window area to the left of the office, where our dining table will fit.

Option 2:
This layout is a bit unusual but has the advantage that the TV is closer to the sofa. In the narrow section of the office, shelves could be placed.

Attached is also a picture of the floor plan.
In the bedroom, a drywall partition will be erected to create a walk-in closet or, later, to relocate the office there.

I am grateful for any suggestions or ideas.
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Badneuling26
29 Dec 2017 11:08
Thanks for your suggestions. We are planning a desk measuring 2 x 0.60 meters (6.6 x 2 feet).
The window wall (on the left side of the plan, with the two windows) faces south.
The right side, where the balcony is located, faces east.
Of course, the office isn’t huge, but it’s sufficient.
As mentioned, we don’t want to split the room in half down the middle because of the loss of light. Instead, we’re content with a smaller office.
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Alex85
29 Dec 2017 11:16
How south suddenly turns into east ... well. Partly mirrored to kaho's suggestion, then you have light from the south in the living room and from the east (or rather north?) in the study. Light from the east only comes in during the morning anyway, so it’s not really decisive for the use of the living room.
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Badneuling26
29 Dec 2017 11:25
@Alex85 Sorry, you are of course right. Both window fronts face west. For the living room, it’s not only about the sunlight but also the fact that we want access to the balcony from the living room, not from the office.

However, I don’t quite understand your suggestion.
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Alex85
29 Dec 2017 11:29
I think you are trying to achieve too much at once. You will have to accept one compromise. The room was designed to be divided.

For example, I would completely disregard the chimney stack if it’s only about keeping the option to use it sometime in the future. Wrong priority.

My suggestion does “sacrifice” the balcony, that’s true. However, you get better lighting in the living room than with kaho’s proposal, and no awkward corners in the room (which definitely wouldn’t suit me).
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Badneuling26
29 Dec 2017 11:41
Clearly, you have to make a trade-off, and in our case, it’s the size of the office.
Regarding the lighting conditions, I see it differently:
We need bright lighting in the office, or rather, I think it’s important that the dining area is well-lit.
On the other hand, I don’t need as much light in the sofa area, since that’s where you usually sit in the evening.
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Alex85
29 Dec 2017 11:48
Okay, if you don’t want to divide vertically, then only horizontal division remains. Since the office would still be too large for you in that case, that option is also out.

You also don’t want to work with room dividers.

So, the only options left are to allocate one quarter of the space to the office, which would then be relatively small. For this, you have four possible layouts:

top left – this blocks the living room’s natural light from the west
bottom left – this also blocks the living room’s natural light from the west and might obstruct the chimney flue
top right – the balcony would no longer be accessible from the living room
bottom right – this only blocks light from the east and would need to be checked due to the wide window front

Choose whichever suits you best.