Hello,
I came across this forum some time ago. Back then, it was mainly about planning our narrow bathroom, which is now a thing of the past (a long story).
Now my husband and I are planning to buy a condominium. However, the apartment currently has only two rooms. Since the living room is huge at 40m² (430 sq ft), we would like to create a third room here.
I have already prepared two sketches for this:
First of all: simply putting up a wall from the entrance to the fireplace (there is a fireplace opening behind the column) is not an option, as the windows face south and we would lose too much natural light. The covered balcony with 25m² (270 sq ft) faces east.
Regarding option 1:
The room would be rectangular in shape. The sofa would be positioned as drawn freehand. However, the wall would not end parallel to the right hallway wall as shown but would stop earlier so that when looking from the hallway into the living room, the office wall would be visible. Concern with this option:
The distance between the sofa and the TV is very large.
Advantage: we keep a window area to the left of the office, where our dining table will fit.
Option 2:
This layout is a bit unusual but has the advantage that the TV is closer to the sofa. In the narrow section of the office, shelves could be placed.
Attached is also a picture of the floor plan.
In the bedroom, a drywall partition will be erected to create a walk-in closet or, later, to relocate the office there.
I am grateful for any suggestions or ideas.
I came across this forum some time ago. Back then, it was mainly about planning our narrow bathroom, which is now a thing of the past (a long story).
Now my husband and I are planning to buy a condominium. However, the apartment currently has only two rooms. Since the living room is huge at 40m² (430 sq ft), we would like to create a third room here.
I have already prepared two sketches for this:
First of all: simply putting up a wall from the entrance to the fireplace (there is a fireplace opening behind the column) is not an option, as the windows face south and we would lose too much natural light. The covered balcony with 25m² (270 sq ft) faces east.
Regarding option 1:
The room would be rectangular in shape. The sofa would be positioned as drawn freehand. However, the wall would not end parallel to the right hallway wall as shown but would stop earlier so that when looking from the hallway into the living room, the office wall would be visible. Concern with this option:
The distance between the sofa and the TV is very large.
Advantage: we keep a window area to the left of the office, where our dining table will fit.
Option 2:
This layout is a bit unusual but has the advantage that the TV is closer to the sofa. In the narrow section of the office, shelves could be placed.
Attached is also a picture of the floor plan.
In the bedroom, a drywall partition will be erected to create a walk-in closet or, later, to relocate the office there.
I am grateful for any suggestions or ideas.
So somehow squeezing in a home office is one thing, but creating a living area is another.
Having a light fixture outlet is fine, but where is the switch located and can it be controlled separately?
Are there at least power outlets available everywhere?
What would the size proportions be if the room is divided vertically once, so that the home office is on the east/balcony side?
Would there still be enough space on the west/south side for living and dining areas?
Having a light fixture outlet is fine, but where is the switch located and can it be controlled separately?
Are there at least power outlets available everywhere?
What would the size proportions be if the room is divided vertically once, so that the home office is on the east/balcony side?
Would there still be enough space on the west/south side for living and dining areas?
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Badneuling2628 Dec 2017 23:22We have now sketched our latest idea and are quite pleased with it.
We angled the wall towards the dining area (please note that these are hand drawings only).
An advantage is that the fireplace area remains in the living room.
@Alex85
The electrician will be coming soon, and we will find out from them if there are four circuits.
We currently have two light switches controlling two lights each, one in the balcony area and one in the window area.
Power outlets are available everywhere.
Dividing the space vertically to have an office in the balcony area is not an option, as the office would then be oversized. Secondly, we want to keep the balcony connected to the living room area.
We angled the wall towards the dining area (please note that these are hand drawings only).
An advantage is that the fireplace area remains in the living room.
@Alex85
The electrician will be coming soon, and we will find out from them if there are four circuits.
We currently have two light switches controlling two lights each, one in the balcony area and one in the window area.
Power outlets are available everywhere.
Dividing the space vertically to have an office in the balcony area is not an option, as the office would then be oversized. Secondly, we want to keep the balcony connected to the living room area.
Badneuling26 schrieb:
The office is planned to have two desks, as shown in the second version, along with two shelves. I meant more about what activities will take place there: two people is clear, but will they be there at the same time, for many hours a day, studying for exams, doing accounting, composing film music...? These are things we don’t know, but might be important for useful advice.
Badneuling26 schrieb:
We will only stay in the apartment until the house is ready ;-)
Is 8sqm (86 sq ft) really that small for a 3- or 4-year-old child? For example, I had not considered that information. Building the house is already part of the life plan, three or four years after the child is born. Okay, at first glance it doesn’t make much sense to buy an apartment now (?)
And won’t you be working from home anymore when the child arrives?
Müllerin schrieb:
8sqm (86 sq ft) for a toddler is probably fine if it’s only for sleeping and storing toys, especially if the child plays in the living room with you.
Otherwise – 2sqm (22 sq ft) for the bed leaves 6sqm (65 sq ft) [...] I agree with that assessment.
Badneuling26 schrieb:
We have now angled the wall towards the dining area (please only refer to the hand drawings). You really need an experienced eye to look at that; the contrast between erased and “final” lines could be stronger.
You can make the angled wall, I don’t see it creating a significant quality difference – neither positive nor negative.
Badneuling26 schrieb:
Another advantage would be that the fireplace area stays in the living room. How relevant is it which room the “pillar” on the wall is located in?
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Badneuling2629 Dec 2017 08:40Good morning [USER=32750]@11ant
My husband is a teacher and needs the office every day.
I use it for handling paperwork, but I also sometimes sit at the dining table with my laptop.
If the child should be there, they would get this room, and my husband would move to the bedroom (which has an anteroom of about 6.5 m² (70 sq ft) available). I would then not need an office at home initially, as I have one at my workplace.
Regarding the slanted wall, I see the advantage that the desk would no longer conflict with the fireplace.
If I left the wall straight and extended it down as far as possible to maximize the office size, it would become tight with the dining table (also because of the fireplace).
We feel that the fireplace in our first layout is distracting in the office, whereas it fits "better" in the dining area. That way, we can eventually use it if we want.
Overall, I find the last layout harmonious because when you enter the room, the stairwell wall is simply continued through the office.
The dining area is then located behind it.
This way, we have preserved the light from the first window and created an open living room.
My husband is a teacher and needs the office every day.
I use it for handling paperwork, but I also sometimes sit at the dining table with my laptop.
If the child should be there, they would get this room, and my husband would move to the bedroom (which has an anteroom of about 6.5 m² (70 sq ft) available). I would then not need an office at home initially, as I have one at my workplace.
Regarding the slanted wall, I see the advantage that the desk would no longer conflict with the fireplace.
If I left the wall straight and extended it down as far as possible to maximize the office size, it would become tight with the dining table (also because of the fireplace).
We feel that the fireplace in our first layout is distracting in the office, whereas it fits "better" in the dining area. That way, we can eventually use it if we want.
Overall, I find the last layout harmonious because when you enter the room, the stairwell wall is simply continued through the office.
The dining area is then located behind it.
This way, we have preserved the light from the first window and created an open living room.
Badneuling26 schrieb:
Overall, I now find the last version to be the most balanced...Well then. :oI think the office is way too small, the dining table is miles away from the kitchen, wasted dead space behind the sofa, the fireplace option lost, and the slanted wall as the finishing touch.
My desk is 80cm (31 inches) deep and 160cm (63 inches) wide. Okay, there are also children’s desks with a depth of 65cm (26 inches), but as a teacher, I imagine that would feel very cramped. What are the dimensions of the current desk?
When I try to arrange the furniture, I keep coming back to the continuous wall. You also want to be able to get up and access the cabinet without falling backwards over someone else’s chair. But everyone to their own.
I would do it exactly mirrored to kaho's suggestion, since the left side of the plan is supposed to be south?
Although the original post says the window front faces south (so left side of the plan?) and the balcony faces east (right side of the plan?). How that fits together, I’m not sure right now 🙂
Although the original post says the window front faces south (so left side of the plan?) and the balcony faces east (right side of the plan?). How that fits together, I’m not sure right now 🙂
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