Hello,
I came across this forum some time ago. Back then, it was mainly about planning our narrow bathroom, which is now a thing of the past (a long story).
Now my husband and I are planning to buy a condominium. However, the apartment currently has only two rooms. Since the living room is huge at 40m² (430 sq ft), we would like to create a third room here.
I have already prepared two sketches for this:
First of all: simply putting up a wall from the entrance to the fireplace (there is a fireplace opening behind the column) is not an option, as the windows face south and we would lose too much natural light. The covered balcony with 25m² (270 sq ft) faces east.
Regarding option 1:
The room would be rectangular in shape. The sofa would be positioned as drawn freehand. However, the wall would not end parallel to the right hallway wall as shown but would stop earlier so that when looking from the hallway into the living room, the office wall would be visible. Concern with this option:
The distance between the sofa and the TV is very large.
Advantage: we keep a window area to the left of the office, where our dining table will fit.
Option 2:
This layout is a bit unusual but has the advantage that the TV is closer to the sofa. In the narrow section of the office, shelves could be placed.
Attached is also a picture of the floor plan.
In the bedroom, a drywall partition will be erected to create a walk-in closet or, later, to relocate the office there.
I am grateful for any suggestions or ideas.
I came across this forum some time ago. Back then, it was mainly about planning our narrow bathroom, which is now a thing of the past (a long story).
Now my husband and I are planning to buy a condominium. However, the apartment currently has only two rooms. Since the living room is huge at 40m² (430 sq ft), we would like to create a third room here.
I have already prepared two sketches for this:
First of all: simply putting up a wall from the entrance to the fireplace (there is a fireplace opening behind the column) is not an option, as the windows face south and we would lose too much natural light. The covered balcony with 25m² (270 sq ft) faces east.
Regarding option 1:
The room would be rectangular in shape. The sofa would be positioned as drawn freehand. However, the wall would not end parallel to the right hallway wall as shown but would stop earlier so that when looking from the hallway into the living room, the office wall would be visible. Concern with this option:
The distance between the sofa and the TV is very large.
Advantage: we keep a window area to the left of the office, where our dining table will fit.
Option 2:
This layout is a bit unusual but has the advantage that the TV is closer to the sofa. In the narrow section of the office, shelves could be placed.
Attached is also a picture of the floor plan.
In the bedroom, a drywall partition will be erected to create a walk-in closet or, later, to relocate the office there.
I am grateful for any suggestions or ideas.
So far, every suggested sofa area has had disadvantages. Either the TV wall is too far away or it’s somehow placed near the balcony access. With Yvonne’s latest sketch, my immediate thought was, “this is it.” With the other sketches, I always felt, “no, it doesn’t flow well.” Especially since you can also see the sofa from the entrance, and so on.
In Yvonne’s version, you could also simply choose a 2.5- to 3-seater sofa and add a nice armchair... which can be placed further to the right and is much more flexible than a sofa.
In Yvonne’s version, you could also simply choose a 2.5- to 3-seater sofa and add a nice armchair... which can be placed further to the right and is much more flexible than a sofa.
kbt09 schrieb:
With Yvonne’s latest sketch, my immediate thought was “this is it.” With the other sketches, I always felt “no, it’s not quite right.” Especially since you can see the sofa from the entrance, etc.
In Yvonne’s version, you can simply choose a 2.5- to 3-seater sofa and a great armchair... which can be placed further to the right but is much more movable than a sofa.Haha, that also looks more casual and inviting from the hallway :-)https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
If you can see the TV from the hallway but there is no seating in front of it, doesn’t that look a bit odd (?)
.No, not really. In fact, because a part of the sofa is visible there, it actually makes anyone standing in the hallway curious to see more. They can tell the space continues and that there is another designated zone — which builds anticipation for the end of the day. 😉
You always perceive a room in 3D, so you should plan _with_ the room. It goes without saying that strict symmetry isn’t required here. But adding some dynamism with a low cushion extending backward makes a room more interesting. Interior designers intentionally highlight such cushions, often accessorizing them with pillows or a throw blanket. Even a wooden tray could be styled there.
If you want to avoid decorative clutter, at least consider the room within the room (not the office, but the chill-out lounge) as an advantage.
When I take photos or stage a room, I usually pull a chair or padded stool forward to make the setup look more inviting.
I also don’t see the duct as a problem. Between it and the exterior wall (west side), you could install light wood shelves at equal intervals to hold books or decorations.
For the seating area in front of the window, I wouldn’t add more than a floor lamp 🙂
ypg schrieb:
No, not really, or rather, precisely because a part of the sofa is visible there, it makes the one standing in the hallway curious to see more. Exactly. At least a small part of the sofa should peek out, otherwise, from the hallway it looks like a "TV with nothing in front of it."
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
B
Badneuling269 Jan 2018 20:05Hello,
these are of course all good points, and by now I tend to agree.
What still bothers me, however, is the position of the TV to the left of the chimney and whether the sofa area might become too “tight,” especially considering that the dining area is given such a large space opposite it. Also, the office space becomes smaller again.
Lately, the question arises of which area should be given higher priority.
Another approach could be this:
Place the sofa roughly just past the middle of the balcony door, so the passage to the balcony remains clear.
In the rear area (that is, to the right of the balcony), you could work with an armchair, rug, and sideboard.
these are of course all good points, and by now I tend to agree.
What still bothers me, however, is the position of the TV to the left of the chimney and whether the sofa area might become too “tight,” especially considering that the dining area is given such a large space opposite it. Also, the office space becomes smaller again.
Lately, the question arises of which area should be given higher priority.
Another approach could be this:
Place the sofa roughly just past the middle of the balcony door, so the passage to the balcony remains clear.
In the rear area (that is, to the right of the balcony), you could work with an armchair, rug, and sideboard.
No matter how you look at it: when the dining area is full and the chairs are occupied, no one can move properly in your preferred cozy spots. So in daily life, the table gets pushed against the wall and only two people can sit side by side 😉 Okay, that’s a bit exaggerated... but I would reconsider whether you would still enjoy using the dining table as a proper dining space.
Try entering the room layout into homebyme: it’s quite quick, and you can play around with the 3D view to see the effect.
Try entering the room layout into homebyme: it’s quite quick, and you can play around with the 3D view to see the effect.
Similar topics