ᐅ First impression: layout and questions regarding the upper floor walls
Created on: 28 May 2020 09:01
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XxTankerxX
Hello everyone,
We are planning to build a house next year in the fall. The detailed planning will probably start in winter or spring. However, I am already thinking about the basic floor plan and layout.
I have sketched some initial drawings and an important question regarding structural engineering came up: How many walls can a ceiling that is load-bearing underneath support on the upper floor? More specifically, I’m asking in general about the upper floor, especially the living room and dining room.
Could someone take a quick look and give a brief opinion on whether this would be feasible at all?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
XxTankerxX

We are planning to build a house next year in the fall. The detailed planning will probably start in winter or spring. However, I am already thinking about the basic floor plan and layout.
I have sketched some initial drawings and an important question regarding structural engineering came up: How many walls can a ceiling that is load-bearing underneath support on the upper floor? More specifically, I’m asking in general about the upper floor, especially the living room and dining room.
Could someone take a quick look and give a brief opinion on whether this would be feasible at all?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
XxTankerxX
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XxTankerxX28 May 2020 13:33Ybias78 schrieb:
We haven’t built yet. When asking many people what they would like to change, two things came up often:
1. Everything on one level (no, they weren’t all over 60 years old ).
2. Larger storage/utility room if there is no basement.
The rest of what I would "criticize" is more subjective. So it wouldn’t really help you. Regarding point 1, a slightly wider staircase to allow for a stairlift installation, and then I’m pretty relaxed about that.
Regarding point 2, a small storage room on the ground floor is enough for me. I’ll be building a full basement anyway (since the layout down there is initially less important than upstairs, I don’t have sketches for it yet).
Overall, your plan reminds me of this one: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-für-4-Personen-Meinungen.34437/page-21#post-397902 – essentially except for the bay window and the orientation. Your upper floor is drawn with windows on all exterior walls – is this meant to be a "town villa"?
It also depends on the roof how the interior walls on the upper floor are constructed. And not only because load-bearing walls should ideally align vertically – but also for the same reason regarding wet rooms (which you did not consider here) – it is advisable to start with the upper floor. Overall, there is still a lot of information missing here; it’s best if you first create an introduction thread, and any floor plan discussion should always begin with the completed questionnaire.
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XxTankerxX schrieb:
How many walls can a floor support if it is cantilevered underneath?
It also depends on the roof how the interior walls on the upper floor are constructed. And not only because load-bearing walls should ideally align vertically – but also for the same reason regarding wet rooms (which you did not consider here) – it is advisable to start with the upper floor. Overall, there is still a lot of information missing here; it’s best if you first create an introduction thread, and any floor plan discussion should always begin with the completed questionnaire.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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XxTankerxX29 May 2020 10:06ypg schrieb:
Apparently no basement.
Don’t forget the utility room. And the laundry area. No, it will have a basement. I just haven’t given much thought to it yet.
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XxTankerxX29 May 2020 10:0811ant schrieb:
Overall, your plan reminds me of this one: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-für-4-Personen-Meinungen.34437/page-21#post-397902 – basically the same except for the bay window and the orientation. Your upper floor (UF) is drawn with windows on all exterior walls – is this meant to be a "town villa"?
The roof also influences how the interior walls on the UF are constructed. And not only because load-bearing walls are best aligned vertically – but also regarding the placement of wet rooms (which you haven’t considered here) – it’s advisable to start with the UF. Overall, there is still a lot of missing information; it’s best to first create an introduction thread, and a floor plan topic should always start with a completed questionnaire. You are right. It looks similar. Yes, it should be designed in the style of a town villa.
Regarding wet rooms: Are you referring to the advantage concerning the installation of plumbing pipes?
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