ᐅ First Floor Plan for a Single-Family House – Your Ideas Including the Plot
Created on: 11 Jan 2019 21:48
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MRN2018
Hello everyone,
We are still quite early in the process and hope to summarize everything important for you. We are looking forward to your ideas, especially regarding the best way to position the house including a garage or carport (currently undecided due to cost) on the plot to minimize the space needed for driveway and yard. The house can be freely placed on the property, respecting the standard 3-meter (10 ft) setback. We have already visited a few general contractors and received one proposal so far. We weren’t quite satisfied with it and have made some adjustments ourselves. We have attached a rough sketch of our idea for you. Windows have not yet been considered. So far, the suggestions from the contractors have been limited, especially regarding the basic placement. We would like to enter further discussions with more precise floor plan ideas and hope for some input from you.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1040 sqm (11,200 sq ft)
Slope: 3 meters (10 ft) rise across the entire plot
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries:
Edge development: garage or carport
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation
Maximum height/limits
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: with basement and 1.5 - 2 floors (depending on what makes sense)
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 baby
Space requirements:
Ground floor: living-dining area, kitchen with pantry, study, guest bathroom, storage under stairs
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, master bedroom with walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guest overnight stays per year: not relevant
Open or closed layout: rather open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: cooking island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: preference for a double garage with storage room—ideally with direct access to the house. However, due to the shape of the land, this might be difficult. For cost reasons, a carport with adjoining storage room is also conceivable.
Utility garden, greenhouse: both
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, with explanations for preferences: fireplace as a "divider" between dining and living areas
House design
Origin of the plan: our own and the general contractor’s
What do you like most? Why?
Ground floor: kitchen area is not visible from the living room, separation of living/dining areas by fireplace, relatively spacious living room, guest bathroom shower not directly visible from the door, bright study room, stairway is a half-landing design and not immediately next to the front door.
Upper floor: equally sized children’s rooms, T-shaped bathroom layout, walk-in closet not directly visible from the bedroom door.
What do you dislike? Why?
The hallway is uninspired, and when room doors are open, one can look directly from the front door into the living room. Overall, the floor plan still feels incomplete.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: –
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 350,000
Preferred heating system: air source heat pump
If you have to compromise on details/extra features
- What you can give up:
* Basement (but then a suitable technical room would need to be included on the ground floor. The idea here is to simply attach the garage directly and locate the technical room—including a windbreak area—between the garage and house.)
* Double garage replaced by carport (each with storage room)
- What you cannot give up:
So, we hope we have covered everything and are very excited to hear your thoughts.
Best regards from the Rhön
We are still quite early in the process and hope to summarize everything important for you. We are looking forward to your ideas, especially regarding the best way to position the house including a garage or carport (currently undecided due to cost) on the plot to minimize the space needed for driveway and yard. The house can be freely placed on the property, respecting the standard 3-meter (10 ft) setback. We have already visited a few general contractors and received one proposal so far. We weren’t quite satisfied with it and have made some adjustments ourselves. We have attached a rough sketch of our idea for you. Windows have not yet been considered. So far, the suggestions from the contractors have been limited, especially regarding the basic placement. We would like to enter further discussions with more precise floor plan ideas and hope for some input from you.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1040 sqm (11,200 sq ft)
Slope: 3 meters (10 ft) rise across the entire plot
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.5
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries:
Edge development: garage or carport
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation
Maximum height/limits
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: with basement and 1.5 - 2 floors (depending on what makes sense)
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 baby
Space requirements:
Ground floor: living-dining area, kitchen with pantry, study, guest bathroom, storage under stairs
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, master bedroom with walk-in closet
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Guest overnight stays per year: not relevant
Open or closed layout: rather open
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: cooking island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound system wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: preference for a double garage with storage room—ideally with direct access to the house. However, due to the shape of the land, this might be difficult. For cost reasons, a carport with adjoining storage room is also conceivable.
Utility garden, greenhouse: both
Other wishes/particulars/daily routine, with explanations for preferences: fireplace as a "divider" between dining and living areas
House design
Origin of the plan: our own and the general contractor’s
What do you like most? Why?
Ground floor: kitchen area is not visible from the living room, separation of living/dining areas by fireplace, relatively spacious living room, guest bathroom shower not directly visible from the door, bright study room, stairway is a half-landing design and not immediately next to the front door.
Upper floor: equally sized children’s rooms, T-shaped bathroom layout, walk-in closet not directly visible from the bedroom door.
What do you dislike? Why?
The hallway is uninspired, and when room doors are open, one can look directly from the front door into the living room. Overall, the floor plan still feels incomplete.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: –
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 350,000
Preferred heating system: air source heat pump
If you have to compromise on details/extra features
- What you can give up:
* Basement (but then a suitable technical room would need to be included on the ground floor. The idea here is to simply attach the garage directly and locate the technical room—including a windbreak area—between the garage and house.)
* Double garage replaced by carport (each with storage room)
- What you cannot give up:
So, we hope we have covered everything and are very excited to hear your thoughts.
Best regards from the Rhön
B
boxandroof13 Jan 2019 21:12MRN2018 schrieb:
Thanks for the helpful response.
The floor plan already looks very good.
I also like the placement of the storage shed next to the carport and behind the utility room (where no lighting is needed anyway).
Where is the technical room located? And out of curiosity, what room do you have in the attic?
Are you already living in the house? If yes, would you do anything differently in hindsight?The technical equipment is in our "utility room" on the ground floor. Connections for the washer and dryer are there, but everything is located in the bathroom on the upper floor. The office is in the attic: no sloping ceilings for shelves, and at 12m² (130 sqft) it’s a good size.
Sorry for the full quote and double post, currently on the go.
face26 schrieb:
I’ve already tried to explain why.
You’re putting the cart before the horse. This is currently the wrong phase to do that. The market is so chaotic right now that no sensible planner will spend much time on you without knowing your budget.
On the surface, it might seem okay, but it won’t lead to anything useful.
Do you have any idea how much time an architect invests in creating a design? And then to hear afterwards, “Oh, it’s 150,000€ too expensive... let’s start over?” No, they rightly ask about the budget in the first meeting, and then work backwards from there. Deduct about 10% from your maximum as a buffer; it will probably be more expensive anyway.
No, you don’t have to do that at all. So take the advice and inform yourself. Read what people here in the forum write and take a lot of it to heart. The people here are all much further along than you, have already finished, or have been doing this for years. And if several people here tell you that something about your approach isn’t right, I would really reconsider it. At the moment, it seems as if you are ignoring objections because you’re determined to continue the floor plan discussion. If you want to do that, you can, but I don’t think it’s productive.
You will also quickly notice that the experienced “floor plan users” here in the forum (I’m not one of them) will soon lose interest because they don’t want to work on a floor plan that might just be discarded later anyway.
And they don’t even get paid for it—
Only fame and glory. Okay, then I’ll put a budget of 450,000 without the land, including additional costs, on the table.
450,000.-
- 15,000 for fireplace
- 15,000 for kitchen
- 30,000 for double garage
- 20,000 for exterior landscaping
= 370,000 house including additional costs
- 40,000 additional costs
= 330,000 construction costs including basement
- 60,000 basement
= 270,000 for the house: 2,000/m² (185 sq ft) = 135 m² (1,452 sq ft) living area
It is not yet clear to me what exactly is included in the term “including fittings.”
The breakdown can be discussed, but by the time you build, prices will probably have increased again. Regarding the basement, the cost depends on the type of construction and it could be more expensive. No major allowance or buffer for land leveling is included here.
Depending on the slope of the site, you should also consider, if you are building a basement, whether the office could be located there.
The special characteristics of the plot with its slope and the “narrow” access side suggest to me that an architect is advisable.
- 15,000 for fireplace
- 15,000 for kitchen
- 30,000 for double garage
- 20,000 for exterior landscaping
= 370,000 house including additional costs
- 40,000 additional costs
= 330,000 construction costs including basement
- 60,000 basement
= 270,000 for the house: 2,000/m² (185 sq ft) = 135 m² (1,452 sq ft) living area
It is not yet clear to me what exactly is included in the term “including fittings.”
The breakdown can be discussed, but by the time you build, prices will probably have increased again. Regarding the basement, the cost depends on the type of construction and it could be more expensive. No major allowance or buffer for land leveling is included here.
Depending on the slope of the site, you should also consider, if you are building a basement, whether the office could be located there.
The special characteristics of the plot with its slope and the “narrow” access side suggest to me that an architect is advisable.
MRN2018 schrieb:
Alternatively, I quite like the sketch from post 16. Okay. Then with #16:
MRN2018 schrieb:
as little space as possible for driveway/yard fulfilled
MRN2018 schrieb:
preferably with direct access to the house fulfilled
MRN2018 schrieb:
The terrace is planned facing south. fulfilled
If you now answer the questions from #14 and #21, it would be possible to assess whether it could also be approved (building permit / planning permission).
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