Hello everyone,
after we put some thought into our floor plans and have already discussed them with builders/prefabricated house suppliers, we would now like to gather some opinions here.
We hope that the following information/attachments provide you with enough details while complying with the forum rules. The attached sketches illustrate our current ideas well, but the dimensions are not accurate “down to the last centimeter.”
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size => 530 sqm (5700 sq ft)
Slope => no (although about 1 m (3 ft) slope at one corner)
Site occupancy index => 0.3
Floor area ratio => 0.6
Roof style => gable roof (requirement 45–48°)
Other requirements => knee wall max. 1.50 m (5 ft), building length at least 11 m (36 ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type => preferably 42° roof pitch (3° deviation from requirement)
Exterior dimensions => length side = 10 m (33 ft) (1 m / 3 ft deviation from requirement)
Basement, floors => basement + 2 floors
Number of occupants, age => 2 currently, potentially 4
Space requirement on ground and upper floors => approx. 75 sqm (800 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? => family use
Open or closed architecture => kitchen open, otherwise closed
Conservative or modern construction => modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island => yes, open kitchen (cooking area free-standing on at least three sides)
Number of dining seats => 6–8
Fireplace => yes, Swedish stove
Music/sound system wall => yes
Balcony, roof terrace => no
Garage, carport => yes, garage, carport, and parking space
Utility garden, greenhouse => no
House Design
Planned by:
- DIY by us (after discussions with various builders/prefabricated house suppliers)
What do you like most?:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
What do you dislike or want to improve?:
Carport Location
- originally planned to place the garage and carport directly next to the house → to maximize the garden space on the south side, the house needs to be placed as far north as possible
=> now we don’t see the carport in front of the house as negatively because it acts as a barrier to the street (about 600 vehicles per day), but a location directly next to the house would be preferable (although this conflicts with the planned kitchen window)
Window Arrangement
- the kitchen window faces directly onto the carport
- the placement of the couch by the terrace windows is still unclear; currently, the couch stands directly in front of the windows
- adding skylights (in bedrooms and stairway area) is still under consideration
Ground Floor
- the living room width of 4 m (13 ft) might be too narrow and could feel “corridor-like”
- currently no storage room on the ground floor
Upper Floor
- storage room currently planned between the two children’s rooms (no window at present)
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
- around 300–350 thousand EUR
Personal price limit for the house including fittings:
- 350 thousand EUR (absolute maximum)
Preferred heating technology:
- gas boiler/solar vs. heat pump (air/water)
If you have to compromise, which details/features could you
… give up:
- storage room on the upper floor
… not give up:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
Thank you very much for your input!
after we put some thought into our floor plans and have already discussed them with builders/prefabricated house suppliers, we would now like to gather some opinions here.
We hope that the following information/attachments provide you with enough details while complying with the forum rules. The attached sketches illustrate our current ideas well, but the dimensions are not accurate “down to the last centimeter.”
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size => 530 sqm (5700 sq ft)
Slope => no (although about 1 m (3 ft) slope at one corner)
Site occupancy index => 0.3
Floor area ratio => 0.6
Roof style => gable roof (requirement 45–48°)
Other requirements => knee wall max. 1.50 m (5 ft), building length at least 11 m (36 ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type => preferably 42° roof pitch (3° deviation from requirement)
Exterior dimensions => length side = 10 m (33 ft) (1 m / 3 ft deviation from requirement)
Basement, floors => basement + 2 floors
Number of occupants, age => 2 currently, potentially 4
Space requirement on ground and upper floors => approx. 75 sqm (800 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? => family use
Open or closed architecture => kitchen open, otherwise closed
Conservative or modern construction => modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island => yes, open kitchen (cooking area free-standing on at least three sides)
Number of dining seats => 6–8
Fireplace => yes, Swedish stove
Music/sound system wall => yes
Balcony, roof terrace => no
Garage, carport => yes, garage, carport, and parking space
Utility garden, greenhouse => no
House Design
Planned by:
- DIY by us (after discussions with various builders/prefabricated house suppliers)
What do you like most?:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
What do you dislike or want to improve?:
Carport Location
- originally planned to place the garage and carport directly next to the house → to maximize the garden space on the south side, the house needs to be placed as far north as possible
=> now we don’t see the carport in front of the house as negatively because it acts as a barrier to the street (about 600 vehicles per day), but a location directly next to the house would be preferable (although this conflicts with the planned kitchen window)
Window Arrangement
- the kitchen window faces directly onto the carport
- the placement of the couch by the terrace windows is still unclear; currently, the couch stands directly in front of the windows
- adding skylights (in bedrooms and stairway area) is still under consideration
Ground Floor
- the living room width of 4 m (13 ft) might be too narrow and could feel “corridor-like”
- currently no storage room on the ground floor
Upper Floor
- storage room currently planned between the two children’s rooms (no window at present)
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
- around 300–350 thousand EUR
Personal price limit for the house including fittings:
- 350 thousand EUR (absolute maximum)
Preferred heating technology:
- gas boiler/solar vs. heat pump (air/water)
If you have to compromise, which details/features could you
… give up:
- storage room on the upper floor
… not give up:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
Thank you very much for your input!
S
Schneckham20 Oct 2015 06:14And the fireplace probably won’t work like that either.
Upstairs, it would likely block a door.
Best regards
Schneckham
Upstairs, it would likely block a door.
Best regards
Schneckham
That doesn’t help at all.
With the drawn plan and the position of the fireplace, I don’t find the kitchen oversized to an extent that it could accommodate a staircase just to save space. Especially since the upper floor would become cramped around the room entrances.
Here are the example staircase dimensions again:
As you can see, for a floor-to-ceiling height of 280 cm (this usually means a clear room height of only around 245 to 250 cm (96 to 98 inches)), approximately 225 x 304 cm (89 x 120 inches) are already needed for a landing staircase.
With the drawn plan and the position of the fireplace, I don’t find the kitchen oversized to an extent that it could accommodate a staircase just to save space. Especially since the upper floor would become cramped around the room entrances.
Here are the example staircase dimensions again:
As you can see, for a floor-to-ceiling height of 280 cm (this usually means a clear room height of only around 245 to 250 cm (96 to 98 inches)), approximately 225 x 304 cm (89 x 120 inches) are already needed for a landing staircase.
P
Project_IV20 Oct 2015 21:47Hello everyone,
Okay, then a half-turn staircase needs to be planned based on the given dimensions/room layouts – it fits in the current hallway.
The fireplace would run through the mezzanine in the current plan, meaning it is not "hidden" in any room. All doors are, of course, easily accessible – although the layout is still not ideal.
Because of the existing walk-in closet, we could also make the bedroom smaller to benefit the children’s room next to the staircase – we will need to revisit this as well.
Best regards,
IV
Okay, then a half-turn staircase needs to be planned based on the given dimensions/room layouts – it fits in the current hallway.
The fireplace would run through the mezzanine in the current plan, meaning it is not "hidden" in any room. All doors are, of course, easily accessible – although the layout is still not ideal.
Because of the existing walk-in closet, we could also make the bedroom smaller to benefit the children’s room next to the staircase – we will need to revisit this as well.
Best regards,
IV
P
Project_IV15 Nov 2015 22:48Hello everyone,
The plans have been revised once again. The following points have been updated in detail:
- The area for the cloakroom/storage has been adjusted.
- The staircase is now drawn to its full dimensions.
- On the upper floor, the rooms have been slightly modified (in particular, the dressing room now has its own door).
- The fireplace is now also shown on the upper floor.
Could you please take another look at the pantry on the ground floor, which is currently integrated into the kitchen? Do you have better ideas for its location (perhaps on the other side, behind the fireplace)?
=> We are planning a sliding door for access to the pantry.
Overall, we are not dissatisfied with the floor plan. Apart from the open positioning of the pantry, the storage spaces for a cabinet/sideboard in the living room still seem somewhat limited to us. Otherwise, we do not see any major possibilities for improvement.
Thank you very much.
The plans have been revised once again. The following points have been updated in detail:
- The area for the cloakroom/storage has been adjusted.
- The staircase is now drawn to its full dimensions.
- On the upper floor, the rooms have been slightly modified (in particular, the dressing room now has its own door).
- The fireplace is now also shown on the upper floor.
Could you please take another look at the pantry on the ground floor, which is currently integrated into the kitchen? Do you have better ideas for its location (perhaps on the other side, behind the fireplace)?
=> We are planning a sliding door for access to the pantry.
Overall, we are not dissatisfied with the floor plan. Apart from the open positioning of the pantry, the storage spaces for a cabinet/sideboard in the living room still seem somewhat limited to us. Otherwise, we do not see any major possibilities for improvement.
Thank you very much.
I don’t see a staircase with a landing that would work, and there’s no chimney flue, at least not on the ground floor (there would be space for it, but then it would appear again in the hallway on the upper floor).
On the upper floor, door placement is very tight, and on the ground floor there are too many poorly considered walls.
Sorry, but this is a standard floor plan that has been somewhat spoiled.
I also don’t think the changes are well thought out. For example, you could quickly improve the door situation for the utility room and the guest bathroom.
I also find the cloakroom pointless at such a tiny size. How do you expect to move around in there?
On the upper floor, door placement is very tight, and on the ground floor there are too many poorly considered walls.
Sorry, but this is a standard floor plan that has been somewhat spoiled.
I also don’t think the changes are well thought out. For example, you could quickly improve the door situation for the utility room and the guest bathroom.
I also find the cloakroom pointless at such a tiny size. How do you expect to move around in there?
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