Hello everyone,
after we put some thought into our floor plans and have already discussed them with builders/prefabricated house suppliers, we would now like to gather some opinions here.
We hope that the following information/attachments provide you with enough details while complying with the forum rules. The attached sketches illustrate our current ideas well, but the dimensions are not accurate “down to the last centimeter.”
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size => 530 sqm (5700 sq ft)
Slope => no (although about 1 m (3 ft) slope at one corner)
Site occupancy index => 0.3
Floor area ratio => 0.6
Roof style => gable roof (requirement 45–48°)
Other requirements => knee wall max. 1.50 m (5 ft), building length at least 11 m (36 ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type => preferably 42° roof pitch (3° deviation from requirement)
Exterior dimensions => length side = 10 m (33 ft) (1 m / 3 ft deviation from requirement)
Basement, floors => basement + 2 floors
Number of occupants, age => 2 currently, potentially 4
Space requirement on ground and upper floors => approx. 75 sqm (800 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? => family use
Open or closed architecture => kitchen open, otherwise closed
Conservative or modern construction => modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island => yes, open kitchen (cooking area free-standing on at least three sides)
Number of dining seats => 6–8
Fireplace => yes, Swedish stove
Music/sound system wall => yes
Balcony, roof terrace => no
Garage, carport => yes, garage, carport, and parking space
Utility garden, greenhouse => no
House Design
Planned by:
- DIY by us (after discussions with various builders/prefabricated house suppliers)
What do you like most?:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
What do you dislike or want to improve?:
Carport Location
- originally planned to place the garage and carport directly next to the house → to maximize the garden space on the south side, the house needs to be placed as far north as possible
=> now we don’t see the carport in front of the house as negatively because it acts as a barrier to the street (about 600 vehicles per day), but a location directly next to the house would be preferable (although this conflicts with the planned kitchen window)
Window Arrangement
- the kitchen window faces directly onto the carport
- the placement of the couch by the terrace windows is still unclear; currently, the couch stands directly in front of the windows
- adding skylights (in bedrooms and stairway area) is still under consideration
Ground Floor
- the living room width of 4 m (13 ft) might be too narrow and could feel “corridor-like”
- currently no storage room on the ground floor
Upper Floor
- storage room currently planned between the two children’s rooms (no window at present)
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
- around 300–350 thousand EUR
Personal price limit for the house including fittings:
- 350 thousand EUR (absolute maximum)
Preferred heating technology:
- gas boiler/solar vs. heat pump (air/water)
If you have to compromise, which details/features could you
… give up:
- storage room on the upper floor
… not give up:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
Thank you very much for your input!
after we put some thought into our floor plans and have already discussed them with builders/prefabricated house suppliers, we would now like to gather some opinions here.
We hope that the following information/attachments provide you with enough details while complying with the forum rules. The attached sketches illustrate our current ideas well, but the dimensions are not accurate “down to the last centimeter.”
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size => 530 sqm (5700 sq ft)
Slope => no (although about 1 m (3 ft) slope at one corner)
Site occupancy index => 0.3
Floor area ratio => 0.6
Roof style => gable roof (requirement 45–48°)
Other requirements => knee wall max. 1.50 m (5 ft), building length at least 11 m (36 ft)
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type => preferably 42° roof pitch (3° deviation from requirement)
Exterior dimensions => length side = 10 m (33 ft) (1 m / 3 ft deviation from requirement)
Basement, floors => basement + 2 floors
Number of occupants, age => 2 currently, potentially 4
Space requirement on ground and upper floors => approx. 75 sqm (800 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? => family use
Open or closed architecture => kitchen open, otherwise closed
Conservative or modern construction => modern construction
Open kitchen, cooking island => yes, open kitchen (cooking area free-standing on at least three sides)
Number of dining seats => 6–8
Fireplace => yes, Swedish stove
Music/sound system wall => yes
Balcony, roof terrace => no
Garage, carport => yes, garage, carport, and parking space
Utility garden, greenhouse => no
House Design
Planned by:
- DIY by us (after discussions with various builders/prefabricated house suppliers)
What do you like most?:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
What do you dislike or want to improve?:
Carport Location
- originally planned to place the garage and carport directly next to the house → to maximize the garden space on the south side, the house needs to be placed as far north as possible
=> now we don’t see the carport in front of the house as negatively because it acts as a barrier to the street (about 600 vehicles per day), but a location directly next to the house would be preferable (although this conflicts with the planned kitchen window)
Window Arrangement
- the kitchen window faces directly onto the carport
- the placement of the couch by the terrace windows is still unclear; currently, the couch stands directly in front of the windows
- adding skylights (in bedrooms and stairway area) is still under consideration
Ground Floor
- the living room width of 4 m (13 ft) might be too narrow and could feel “corridor-like”
- currently no storage room on the ground floor
Upper Floor
- storage room currently planned between the two children’s rooms (no window at present)
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
- around 300–350 thousand EUR
Personal price limit for the house including fittings:
- 350 thousand EUR (absolute maximum)
Preferred heating technology:
- gas boiler/solar vs. heat pump (air/water)
If you have to compromise, which details/features could you
… give up:
- storage room on the upper floor
… not give up:
- open kitchen, work/guest room on the ground floor
Thank you very much for your input!
P
Project_IV3 Sep 2015 13:12Anne H schrieb:
Hey,
we just finished our floor plan, and I can tell you it was really tough to put together!
We also urgently need a large office, which was originally planned for the ground floor. Now it has been moved upstairs, and we are quite happy with that. In the end, everyone has to decide for themselves...
Spacious living areas were very important to us.
Regarding your floor plan, I can add that a distance of at least 4.5 m (15 feet) between the sofa and TV is recommended, so the space doesn’t feel cramped... after all, the guys want a decent TVP
Project_IV3 Sep 2015 22:43In the first floor plan, the living room width is 4m (13 feet), which is also too narrow for us.
We want at least 4.2m (14 feet), preferably 4.5m (15 feet), fully aware that it will not be easy to include a study/guest room on the ground floor. We are currently looking into the reference to the Maxime 305 from Viebrockhaus. The room layout on the ground floor really fits well (except for the utility room, which we do not need, so we plan to move the study further into "the corner").
We want at least 4.2m (14 feet), preferably 4.5m (15 feet), fully aware that it will not be easy to include a study/guest room on the ground floor. We are currently looking into the reference to the Maxime 305 from Viebrockhaus. The room layout on the ground floor really fits well (except for the utility room, which we do not need, so we plan to move the study further into "the corner").
P
Project_IV12 Oct 2015 20:28Hello forum members,
Over the past few weeks, we have continued to work on our floor plan and now have two competing options, A and B:
Here are the following notes:
General
- The street is located to the east (about 600 vehicles per day)
- The majority of the garden is on the west side
Option A
- Living and dining area oriented to the south
Option B
- Living and dining area oriented to the southwest, facing the garden
- Very compact circulation space on the upper floor (due to the chimney)
We are currently weighing both options against each other. It turns out that the advantages of Option A are disadvantages of Option B and vice versa.
- The hallway in Option A allows direct access to the living area, whereas in Option B, you have to take a “turn”
- The living area in Option B is placed in a “cozy” corner, while in Option A the living area is located close to the terrace / terrace doors, which somewhat reduces the coziness
The plans, as before, are not precise down to the last centimeter but show the basic layout.
Thank you very much for your opinions.
Over the past few weeks, we have continued to work on our floor plan and now have two competing options, A and B:
Here are the following notes:
General
- The street is located to the east (about 600 vehicles per day)
- The majority of the garden is on the west side
Option A
- Living and dining area oriented to the south
Option B
- Living and dining area oriented to the southwest, facing the garden
- Very compact circulation space on the upper floor (due to the chimney)
We are currently weighing both options against each other. It turns out that the advantages of Option A are disadvantages of Option B and vice versa.
- The hallway in Option A allows direct access to the living area, whereas in Option B, you have to take a “turn”
- The living area in Option B is placed in a “cozy” corner, while in Option A the living area is located close to the terrace / terrace doors, which somewhat reduces the coziness
The plans, as before, are not precise down to the last centimeter but show the basic layout.
Thank you very much for your opinions.
Without clear dimensions, it’s difficult to properly assess some of this.
What is the intended knee wall height now? Will there still be a basement?
I prefer Option B in principle, but the fireplace location there doesn’t work at all since you always have to walk around it to get to the kitchen. Also, take a look at the upper floor hallway and imagine moving a mattress or a wardrobe into the bedroom. I think I see a hallway width of 82 cm (32 inches) there. That’s simply not feasible. And why is there the bulge in that one room on the upper floor?
The guest WC with shower in both options looks like it wouldn’t function well.
What you see as a disadvantage of Option B (the route to the living area) could be solved if access was through the kitchen, though I don’t really consider that a major issue. It’s mainly the fireplace position that makes it less favorable.
I think a professional planner needs to take a look at this.
What is the intended knee wall height now? Will there still be a basement?
I prefer Option B in principle, but the fireplace location there doesn’t work at all since you always have to walk around it to get to the kitchen. Also, take a look at the upper floor hallway and imagine moving a mattress or a wardrobe into the bedroom. I think I see a hallway width of 82 cm (32 inches) there. That’s simply not feasible. And why is there the bulge in that one room on the upper floor?
The guest WC with shower in both options looks like it wouldn’t function well.
What you see as a disadvantage of Option B (the route to the living area) could be solved if access was through the kitchen, though I don’t really consider that a major issue. It’s mainly the fireplace position that makes it less favorable.
I think a professional planner needs to take a look at this.
I much prefer option B.
However, if I were you, I would make sure to plan for direct access to the kitchen.
If the budget allows, I would install two sliding doors to the terrace.
The upper floor in option B will be challenging because the bathroom is located above the living room.
However, if I were you, I would make sure to plan for direct access to the kitchen.
If the budget allows, I would install two sliding doors to the terrace.
The upper floor in option B will be challenging because the bathroom is located above the living room.
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