ᐅ First Draft Floor Plan Single-Family Home (approx. 200 sqm) – Request for Feedback
Created on: 24 Feb 2017 22:45
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SupaCriz
Hello,
we are about to sign the contract for the purchase of a hillside plot in a Franconian university town (existing building will be demolished) and have now created a first draft of the floor plans. We would appreciate your feedback! Many thanks in advance.
Please excuse the poor quality of the drawings and the almost complete lack of area specifications – we would like to receive initial feedback before our next meeting with the planners. Afterwards, we will upload higher-quality floor plans. For orientation: The draft is based on a footprint of 10x10m (33x33 feet).
Development plan/restrictions: Development plan
Plot size: 500 sqm (5400 sq ft)
Slope: yes, approx. 6 m (20 feet) drop over 28 m (92 feet) plot length (south-facing slope)
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): 0.2
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): 0.2 (according to the city, some upward deviation is possible here)
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: standard setback distances
Edge development: Garage will be built on the boundary. This is permitted.
Number of parking spaces: 2, likely a double garage
Number of floors: I + basement (that means 1 full storey + basement floor → cellar built into the slope)
Roof type: no specification
Style: no specification
Orientation: Roof ridge must run east-west
Maximum heights/limits: Eaves max. 3 m (10 feet) above street level
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Gable roof with 48° pitch
Basement, floors: Basement – to be used as high-quality living space on the south slope with direct access to the terrace
Number of persons, ages: Parents just over 30, children aged 0 and 2 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floor: Ground floor: main living area and kitchen; upper floor: 3 bedrooms + bathroom
Office, family use or home office?: Possibly an office as a studio under the roof (not a decisive criterion)
Overnight guests per year: extended visits expected
Open or closed design: open
Conservative or modern construction: classic form but large windows with high ceiling height; possibly corner glazing towards southwest in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: closed kitchen with dining table
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: likely yes, but external fireplace
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why certain choices were made or rejected:
Ground-level terrace access from the basement (not yet drawn)
Photovoltaics
House design
Planner: Planner from a construction company (civil engineer) with many changes from our side
What do you like most? Why? Large basement room with terrace access. Comfortable overnight option for guests.
What do you dislike? Why? Limited space upstairs. Small main bathroom. The limited space is unfortunately due to the definition of full storey according to the Bavarian building code of 1969.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: €300,000 plus additional costs
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 380,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump
If you had to make compromises, which details/features
- could you live without: photovoltaics
- could you not live without: basement with living space quality
Why is the design like it is now? For example:
The planner’s initial draft was heavily customized by us. We are still in a very early phase and therefore open to suggestions and ideas.
Creativity may still be somewhat lacking at the moment.
we are about to sign the contract for the purchase of a hillside plot in a Franconian university town (existing building will be demolished) and have now created a first draft of the floor plans. We would appreciate your feedback! Many thanks in advance.
Please excuse the poor quality of the drawings and the almost complete lack of area specifications – we would like to receive initial feedback before our next meeting with the planners. Afterwards, we will upload higher-quality floor plans. For orientation: The draft is based on a footprint of 10x10m (33x33 feet).
Development plan/restrictions: Development plan
Plot size: 500 sqm (5400 sq ft)
Slope: yes, approx. 6 m (20 feet) drop over 28 m (92 feet) plot length (south-facing slope)
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): 0.2
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): 0.2 (according to the city, some upward deviation is possible here)
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: standard setback distances
Edge development: Garage will be built on the boundary. This is permitted.
Number of parking spaces: 2, likely a double garage
Number of floors: I + basement (that means 1 full storey + basement floor → cellar built into the slope)
Roof type: no specification
Style: no specification
Orientation: Roof ridge must run east-west
Maximum heights/limits: Eaves max. 3 m (10 feet) above street level
Other requirements
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: Gable roof with 48° pitch
Basement, floors: Basement – to be used as high-quality living space on the south slope with direct access to the terrace
Number of persons, ages: Parents just over 30, children aged 0 and 2 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floor: Ground floor: main living area and kitchen; upper floor: 3 bedrooms + bathroom
Office, family use or home office?: Possibly an office as a studio under the roof (not a decisive criterion)
Overnight guests per year: extended visits expected
Open or closed design: open
Conservative or modern construction: classic form but large windows with high ceiling height; possibly corner glazing towards southwest in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: closed kitchen with dining table
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: likely yes, but external fireplace
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes/special features/daily routine, also reasons why certain choices were made or rejected:
Ground-level terrace access from the basement (not yet drawn)
Photovoltaics
House design
Planner: Planner from a construction company (civil engineer) with many changes from our side
What do you like most? Why? Large basement room with terrace access. Comfortable overnight option for guests.
What do you dislike? Why? Limited space upstairs. Small main bathroom. The limited space is unfortunately due to the definition of full storey according to the Bavarian building code of 1969.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: €300,000 plus additional costs
Personal price limit for house including fittings: 380,000
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump
If you had to make compromises, which details/features
- could you live without: photovoltaics
- could you not live without: basement with living space quality
Why is the design like it is now? For example:
The planner’s initial draft was heavily customized by us. We are still in a very early phase and therefore open to suggestions and ideas.
Creativity may still be somewhat lacking at the moment.
montessalet9 May 2017 08:16What I also don’t quite understand: If the storage room is adjacent to the garage, there should be a direct access from the garage to the storage room. That would make carrying groceries much easier...
montessalet schrieb:
If the pantry is adjacent to the garage, you should have a direct access from the garage to the pantry: it makes carrying groceries much easier...Why not just have a drive-in pantry? Then later you’ll have to go to the gym because you’ve saved yourself too much effort when bringing in the groceries.
What ends up on your hips still has to cross the threshold.
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If the garage is built on the property boundary, it generally cannot be considered part of the main house. Therefore, an internal connecting door would likely not be allowed, as it would cause the building permit / planning permission to be denied. But you never know what might change in five years... Karsten
Hello again,
Thank you for the comments.
Access from the garage to the utility room will not be possible, among other reasons because the garage will be about 50 cm (20 inches) higher than the top of the finished floor level (FFL).
We have now decided not to raise the building to street level but to place the FFL about 1 meter (3 feet) below it—roughly following the current terrain slope. We have made some minor changes again, especially larger windows and a different attic staircase in the upper floor.
I have attached the latest floor plans and elevations again.
The following questions are still open for us:
1) Additional double casement window in the child 1 room? The upper left corner of the house faces due east—an extra double casement window would have a southeast orientation, enlarging the side window facing northeast [neighbor’s rooftop terrace is 8 m (26 feet) away]. Considering cost-effectiveness, would you recommend adding more window area here? Is it advisable at all?
2) Access to the basement garage room from the second basement room at the bottom left?
This would be an option to quickly get out with the bike later if we park them there and go through the garden to the lower street. An alternative might be a lockable lift-and-slide patio door.
3) Bay window in the ground floor living room:
Would it be sufficient to install the window flush with the outside wall, or should a cantilevered bay window construction be used? What are the pros and cons? (We are building with Ytong 36.5 cm (14.5 inches) blocks without additional insulation)
4) Ventilation system yes/no: KfW55 standard allows both options. What would you recommend with Ytong 36.5 cm without extra insulation? We are not necessarily planning to invest the additional approximately €10,000 (~$11,000) required; we might prefer to invest that in a photovoltaic system instead.
Heating technology will most likely be an air-to-water heat pump.
5) Spiral staircase from the ground floor to the basement living room:
To connect the two living areas, we considered a spiral staircase from the ground floor living room to the basement (in addition to the cellar staircase), either in the upper or lower right corner of the living room, to have a shorter access route to the garden. What do you think of this? Would it also be possible to add such a staircase after some years, when the risk of children falling is lower due to their age?
Thanks for your opinions and best regards.
P.S. I really appreciate the discussions here; everyone shares their opinion openly and directly—in the end, as builders, we can pick what might help us. We have also carefully reconsidered the suggestions regarding a partially ground floor sleeping area and created/reviewed floor plans. Overall, the current solution is better for us—thanks anyway for the advice.
Thank you for the comments.
Access from the garage to the utility room will not be possible, among other reasons because the garage will be about 50 cm (20 inches) higher than the top of the finished floor level (FFL).
We have now decided not to raise the building to street level but to place the FFL about 1 meter (3 feet) below it—roughly following the current terrain slope. We have made some minor changes again, especially larger windows and a different attic staircase in the upper floor.
I have attached the latest floor plans and elevations again.
The following questions are still open for us:
1) Additional double casement window in the child 1 room? The upper left corner of the house faces due east—an extra double casement window would have a southeast orientation, enlarging the side window facing northeast [neighbor’s rooftop terrace is 8 m (26 feet) away]. Considering cost-effectiveness, would you recommend adding more window area here? Is it advisable at all?
2) Access to the basement garage room from the second basement room at the bottom left?
This would be an option to quickly get out with the bike later if we park them there and go through the garden to the lower street. An alternative might be a lockable lift-and-slide patio door.
3) Bay window in the ground floor living room:
Would it be sufficient to install the window flush with the outside wall, or should a cantilevered bay window construction be used? What are the pros and cons? (We are building with Ytong 36.5 cm (14.5 inches) blocks without additional insulation)
4) Ventilation system yes/no: KfW55 standard allows both options. What would you recommend with Ytong 36.5 cm without extra insulation? We are not necessarily planning to invest the additional approximately €10,000 (~$11,000) required; we might prefer to invest that in a photovoltaic system instead.
Heating technology will most likely be an air-to-water heat pump.
5) Spiral staircase from the ground floor to the basement living room:
To connect the two living areas, we considered a spiral staircase from the ground floor living room to the basement (in addition to the cellar staircase), either in the upper or lower right corner of the living room, to have a shorter access route to the garden. What do you think of this? Would it also be possible to add such a staircase after some years, when the risk of children falling is lower due to their age?
Thanks for your opinions and best regards.
P.S. I really appreciate the discussions here; everyone shares their opinion openly and directly—in the end, as builders, we can pick what might help us. We have also carefully reconsidered the suggestions regarding a partially ground floor sleeping area and created/reviewed floor plans. Overall, the current solution is better for us—thanks anyway for the advice.
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