ᐅ Finalizing the floor plan for a 130 m² bungalow designed for 4 people
Created on: 23 Jul 2019 08:00
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micric3
Hello,
we have finalized the floor plan for our project and tried to incorporate feedback/criticism from the previous thread. A new thread was also necessary to include relevant information in the initial post.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1000 m² (10,764 sq ft)
External dimensions of the house: 16 m x 9.5 m (52.5 ft x 31.2 ft) (these were specified by the construction company to stay as close as possible to the budget)
Slope: No
Number of parking spaces: 0
Number of floors: Bungalow
Roof type: Hip roof, gable roof, or shed roof
Orientation: Entrance on the east, living room facing west, dining room facing southwest
Additional requirements: Must blend in with the existing building
Utility connections: Electricity and wastewater/water connections come from the driveway on the west side
Client requirements
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 x 40 years, 2 x 3 years)
Office: In the outbuilding
Guests per year: Maximum 2
Open or closed layout: Open
Conservative or modern architectural style: Either
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Probably U-shaped kitchen, open to alternatives
Number of dining seats: Possibly 2–4 casual spots in the kitchen; otherwise 6–8 in the dining room
Fireplace: Yes, as a room divider between dining and living room
Garage, carport: On the driveway
House design
Who designed it:
- Based on the bungalow 131 floor plan from Town & Country
- Design planned independently using RoomSketcher
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Room layout (size)
- Room divider between kitchen, dining room, and living room (L-shape)
- No hallway
- Open area as a transition space between kitchen and living room
Cost estimate from architect/planner: 215,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 250,000
Preferred heating system: Air-to-water heat pump (either Vaillant aroSplit or Vaillant FlexoCompact)
Why is the design as it is now?
- Dissatisfaction with the designs created in the old thread
Link to original thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Bungalow-Grundriss-16x9-5m-aussen-in-1000m-mit-Altbestand.31485/
we have finalized the floor plan for our project and tried to incorporate feedback/criticism from the previous thread. A new thread was also necessary to include relevant information in the initial post.
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 1000 m² (10,764 sq ft)
External dimensions of the house: 16 m x 9.5 m (52.5 ft x 31.2 ft) (these were specified by the construction company to stay as close as possible to the budget)
Slope: No
Number of parking spaces: 0
Number of floors: Bungalow
Roof type: Hip roof, gable roof, or shed roof
Orientation: Entrance on the east, living room facing west, dining room facing southwest
Additional requirements: Must blend in with the existing building
Utility connections: Electricity and wastewater/water connections come from the driveway on the west side
Client requirements
Number of people, ages: 4 people (2 x 40 years, 2 x 3 years)
Office: In the outbuilding
Guests per year: Maximum 2
Open or closed layout: Open
Conservative or modern architectural style: Either
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Probably U-shaped kitchen, open to alternatives
Number of dining seats: Possibly 2–4 casual spots in the kitchen; otherwise 6–8 in the dining room
Fireplace: Yes, as a room divider between dining and living room
Garage, carport: On the driveway
House design
Who designed it:
- Based on the bungalow 131 floor plan from Town & Country
- Design planned independently using RoomSketcher
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Room layout (size)
- Room divider between kitchen, dining room, and living room (L-shape)
- No hallway
- Open area as a transition space between kitchen and living room
Cost estimate from architect/planner: 215,000
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 250,000
Preferred heating system: Air-to-water heat pump (either Vaillant aroSplit or Vaillant FlexoCompact)
Why is the design as it is now?
- Dissatisfaction with the designs created in the old thread
Link to original thread: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Bungalow-Grundriss-16x9-5m-aussen-in-1000m-mit-Altbestand.31485/
@j.bautsch has already written quite a bit.
I don’t know how old your children are.
It starts with babies (some of them sleep very little) and toddlers who don’t play alone. With an open floor plan, you always have them in sight; you’re always in the same room.
Later, when they do homework, you are always approachable.
No walls in between, nothing.
It annoyed me.
- The cradle couldn’t be moved around
- The stroller didn’t fit into the kitchen
- When you left the room, the crying started
- Then came “Mommy, stay”
- The climbing phase already gave me stomach aches just trying to grab something quickly
Now everything is open. You prepare dinner and can chat or keep an eye on a puzzle. It’s a different kind of interaction. “Mommy, look what I can do?” You just glance up, look, praise, and then continue what you were doing. It flows naturally.
With separate rooms, it’s always “Mom!!! MOM!!!” “Yes, just a moment.” “MOM!!! What is it?” “I don’t know” or no enthusiasm—“Look.”
More freedom of movement. You’re in the same space even if you’re doing something else. Plus, the garden is in view, and I know who goes upstairs or not. One ear is always on the upper floor.
You notice when the fridge is opened and milk is spilled. When a chair or step stool is moved in front of the candy cupboard.
You do housework and still stay close to your children
Our main living area is the kitchen, dining, floor in the open-plan living space, and garden.
I don’t know how old your children are.
It starts with babies (some of them sleep very little) and toddlers who don’t play alone. With an open floor plan, you always have them in sight; you’re always in the same room.
Later, when they do homework, you are always approachable.
No walls in between, nothing.
It annoyed me.
- The cradle couldn’t be moved around
- The stroller didn’t fit into the kitchen
- When you left the room, the crying started
- Then came “Mommy, stay”
- The climbing phase already gave me stomach aches just trying to grab something quickly
Now everything is open. You prepare dinner and can chat or keep an eye on a puzzle. It’s a different kind of interaction. “Mommy, look what I can do?” You just glance up, look, praise, and then continue what you were doing. It flows naturally.
With separate rooms, it’s always “Mom!!! MOM!!!” “Yes, just a moment.” “MOM!!! What is it?” “I don’t know” or no enthusiasm—“Look.”
More freedom of movement. You’re in the same space even if you’re doing something else. Plus, the garden is in view, and I know who goes upstairs or not. One ear is always on the upper floor.
You notice when the fridge is opened and milk is spilled. When a chair or step stool is moved in front of the candy cupboard.
You do housework and still stay close to your children
Our main living area is the kitchen, dining, floor in the open-plan living space, and garden.
Regarding the small table for cats in the kitchen: I know some people who have something like that, but no one actually uses it. It’s mostly just used as a storage surface.
Either the family eats together – in which case it’s better to use the larger, nicer table just a couple of steps away – or the children eat at different times (due to school schedules). It’s then more pleasant to sit down and listen for a while. At the same time, you can look outside, keep an eye on the children in the garden, or supervise the homework of a sibling.
Either the family eats together – in which case it’s better to use the larger, nicer table just a couple of steps away – or the children eat at different times (due to school schedules). It’s then more pleasant to sit down and listen for a while. At the same time, you can look outside, keep an eye on the children in the garden, or supervise the homework of a sibling.
Thank you for the detailed feedback. With my wife, it’s actually the opposite—she prefers to have peace and quiet from the children while in the kitchen. 🙂
However, I think it’s worth discussing this again in terms of the room layout. In your own house, you can simply put the children right outside the door in the garden, so you don’t need a separate kitchen.
@Climbee Many thanks for your effort. I had favored option 2 for the simple reason that the window on the west side offers a direct view of the garden/entry area.
In the kitchen, we face the challenge of placing a window or door in three different directions.
Regarding the living room door, I agree that it will probably be open about 80% of the time. But wouldn’t you miss it if it weren’t there?
However, I think it’s worth discussing this again in terms of the room layout. In your own house, you can simply put the children right outside the door in the garden, so you don’t need a separate kitchen.
@Climbee Many thanks for your effort. I had favored option 2 for the simple reason that the window on the west side offers a direct view of the garden/entry area.
In the kitchen, we face the challenge of placing a window or door in three different directions.
Regarding the living room door, I agree that it will probably be open about 80% of the time. But wouldn’t you miss it if it weren’t there?
micric3 schrieb:
But wouldn’t you miss it?We never missed it; it was more of an obstacle for us. As I said, try it without, and if it doesn’t work for you, it’s not a big deal to add one later.micric3 schrieb:
she wants some peace and quiet away from the kids in the kitchen :]I can understand that in principle, but does she always have someone watching the kids? Depending on their age, I’d find the risk too high that they might accidentally set the house on fire or flood it (exaggerating a bit here, but it’s enough if they raid the chocolate stash and leave marks all over the house with their chocolate-covered fingers, for example).I believe the risk exists regardless of whether the house has an open or closed kitchen ^^
I have now focused [only] on the topic of "storage space."
- Kitchen reduced in width accordingly
-- changed from L-shape to U-shape with a window facing south instead of a door
- currently designed as a closed kitchen
-- ideas for an open layout are welcome
Added utility room
- space-saving staircase (needs to cover 2.60 m (8.5 ft))
-- drawn in the floor plan with a length of 2 m (6.5 ft), but will likely be 2.5 m (8.2 ft) at a 44.5° angle
-- experience-based advice is appreciated
- additional space for: freezer, bottles/drinks, coat storage, laundry
- guest toilet widened
- entrance narrowed to 1.60 m (5.2 ft)
I have now focused [only] on the topic of "storage space."
- Kitchen reduced in width accordingly
-- changed from L-shape to U-shape with a window facing south instead of a door
- currently designed as a closed kitchen
-- ideas for an open layout are welcome
Added utility room
- space-saving staircase (needs to cover 2.60 m (8.5 ft))
-- drawn in the floor plan with a length of 2 m (6.5 ft), but will likely be 2.5 m (8.2 ft) at a 44.5° angle
-- experience-based advice is appreciated
- additional space for: freezer, bottles/drinks, coat storage, laundry
- guest toilet widened
- entrance narrowed to 1.60 m (5.2 ft)
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