Hello, we are currently planning the construction of our future home. We have a fairly clear idea of how the house should look and have already presented our plans to four construction companies. They all basically accepted our ideas without much criticism, gave a few minor suggestions here and there, and provided initial cost estimates. Since the companies all took our ideas quite quietly, we assume we are on the right track 🙂
We would like to hear your opinions on the floor plan before we hand over the fine-tuned plans to the construction companies for detailed pricing.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1,150 sqm (12,379 sq ft) - Parcels 19 + 19a - (plot contractually reserved, buildability likely from Jan 22)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: at least 3 m (10 ft) must be left free for landscaping along the street
Edge development: I found nothing further about edge development in the development plan, so I assume 3 meters (10 ft)
Number of parking spaces: parking spaces must be created for our own cars
Number of storeys: max 2 full storeys
Roof style
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations: max ridge height 9.5 m (31 ft)
Further regulations: garages must be at least 3 m (10 ft) away from public traffic areas
Requirements from the Homeowners
Architectural style, roof style, building type: urban villa with flat gable roof (KfW55 standard)
Basement, storeys: no basement, 2 storeys
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 child (29, 29, 2 years), another child planned
Space requirements on ground and upper floors:
Ground floor: guest room/office + shower bathroom
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, dressing room, children’s bathroom, master bathroom
Office: family use or home office? Home office possibility + overnight guests
Guest stays per year: at least 10 times a year for 2 guests, possibly more
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design: rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: we plan a carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: some use planned
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, including reasons for choices: We definitely wanted a storage room, which one company then added upstairs. The last company we spoke with suggested this: concrete stairs with a separate storage room under the stairs behind a door (unfortunately not included in the floor plan as my "Sweet Home 3D" skills ended there). The stairwell would then face the entrance door rather than the living room. We like this idea but wonder if we could give up the second storage room upstairs in favor of more space for the children’s rooms.
House Design
Who designed the plan: mainly our ideas, digitalized by the construction company
What do you like? Why?:
1. The living room-kitchen area was taken 1:1 from a model home where we liked the feeling of space very much.
2. Bedroom and master bathroom are accessed via the dressing room.
3. The master bathroom is also taken almost exactly from a model home.
What do you not like? Why?: We wonder if the hallway is sufficient. It will definitely not be spacious, just functional, but is there enough space?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump, possibly photovoltaic with battery storage (consultation still needed)
If you had to give up details or expansions
- what could you give up: a storage room?
- what couldn’t you give up:
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
A mix of house catalogs, model home visits, and ideas from the construction companies
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Due to my limited "Sweet Home 3D" skills, the ground floor plan looks a bit odd. I superimposed an earlier floor plan as a reference under the new one. Please only pay attention to the stronger outlines for the sofa and dining table. Sorry about that, but it’s the best I could do.
Let me know if we forgot any relevant information. Sorry in advance if my responses are not immediate; I will try to reply as soon as possible.
So, we look forward to your feedback.
We would like to hear your opinions on the floor plan before we hand over the fine-tuned plans to the construction companies for detailed pricing.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1,150 sqm (12,379 sq ft) - Parcels 19 + 19a - (plot contractually reserved, buildability likely from Jan 22)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: at least 3 m (10 ft) must be left free for landscaping along the street
Edge development: I found nothing further about edge development in the development plan, so I assume 3 meters (10 ft)
Number of parking spaces: parking spaces must be created for our own cars
Number of storeys: max 2 full storeys
Roof style
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations: max ridge height 9.5 m (31 ft)
Further regulations: garages must be at least 3 m (10 ft) away from public traffic areas
Requirements from the Homeowners
Architectural style, roof style, building type: urban villa with flat gable roof (KfW55 standard)
Basement, storeys: no basement, 2 storeys
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 child (29, 29, 2 years), another child planned
Space requirements on ground and upper floors:
Ground floor: guest room/office + shower bathroom
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, dressing room, children’s bathroom, master bathroom
Office: family use or home office? Home office possibility + overnight guests
Guest stays per year: at least 10 times a year for 2 guests, possibly more
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design: rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: we plan a carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: some use planned
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, including reasons for choices: We definitely wanted a storage room, which one company then added upstairs. The last company we spoke with suggested this: concrete stairs with a separate storage room under the stairs behind a door (unfortunately not included in the floor plan as my "Sweet Home 3D" skills ended there). The stairwell would then face the entrance door rather than the living room. We like this idea but wonder if we could give up the second storage room upstairs in favor of more space for the children’s rooms.
House Design
Who designed the plan: mainly our ideas, digitalized by the construction company
What do you like? Why?:
1. The living room-kitchen area was taken 1:1 from a model home where we liked the feeling of space very much.
2. Bedroom and master bathroom are accessed via the dressing room.
3. The master bathroom is also taken almost exactly from a model home.
What do you not like? Why?: We wonder if the hallway is sufficient. It will definitely not be spacious, just functional, but is there enough space?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump, possibly photovoltaic with battery storage (consultation still needed)
If you had to give up details or expansions
- what could you give up: a storage room?
- what couldn’t you give up:
Why did the design turn out as it is now?
A mix of house catalogs, model home visits, and ideas from the construction companies
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
- Positioning/orientation on the plot: we are still unsure about what looks good or unusual and how the room orientation toward cardinal directions makes sense. We also have photovoltaic with a corresponding south-facing roof in mind. (I attached 2 orientation ideas)
- Does an additional window near the couch in the living room make sense?
- Can the stairwell/gallery window be smaller, will the light be sufficient?
- What are your general thoughts on the floor plan?
Due to my limited "Sweet Home 3D" skills, the ground floor plan looks a bit odd. I superimposed an earlier floor plan as a reference under the new one. Please only pay attention to the stronger outlines for the sofa and dining table. Sorry about that, but it’s the best I could do.
Let me know if we forgot any relevant information. Sorry in advance if my responses are not immediate; I will try to reply as soon as possible.
So, we look forward to your feedback.
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pagoni202013 Sep 2021 22:44RiQu2020 schrieb:
I have no problem trying out floor plans on paper. But if I had tested all my attempts from the last two weeks on paper instead of using the computer, it probably would have taken me about 8 weeks...That doesn’t necessarily have to be the case, because it also changes the way you work, especially how you collaborate—at least that’s my experience. And... what’s so bad about 8 weeks or more? Building a house is not a sprint; ideally, it develops calmly and with patience.
Now, I’m no floor plan expert, but my impression is that the current floor plan so far looks like squares or rectangles simply pushed together, rather than a floor plan developed individually. You can’t just drop a staircase somewhere as a placeholder or move it around arbitrarily. If the staircase is oriented differently, the entire layout changes; if you pull on one thread, something else comes down somewhere else.
RiQu2020 schrieb:
I didn’t change the design within an hour, but have been trying out new ideas almost daily for the past two weeks. This comment of mine was not directed specifically at you, but rather meant in a general sense.
However, the lack of planning also applies to your case.
For example: when you keep sketching repeatedly, you immediately notice if you make the same mistake twice. Then you erase and start over.
That is definitely faster and more effective than deleting individual walls. But anyway: everyone is free to play by their own rules. You just have to consider if sometimes you need to give up control.
RiQu2020 schrieb:
I never start from scratch but always use existing floor plans from catalogs or homebuilders’ websites as a basis. However, we definitely want a children’s bathroom and also want the master bathroom and bedroom to be accessible through the walk-in closet. In that case, you should choose a house model as your base that either already includes a children’s bathroom or, alternatively, has a room of appropriate size in a suitable location but with a use that you consider dispensable, so you can repurpose it. Trying to insert an additional room into such a “template” usually fails if you upscale the floor plan dimensions to create space for the “implant” and then shrink neighboring rooms back down. A more successful approach is similar to extending the wheelbase of a stretch limousine along the house’s main axis. In other words, you expand the floor plan only in one dimension, specifically in the ridge direction. Modifying a functioning floor plan in terms of the gable width or in both dimensions typically results in problems. Did you perhaps use a template that originally had a hip roof attic? That would explain the “special” stair layout.
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Snowy36 schrieb:
Am I the only one here who thinks it’s really a shame that you get the biggest plot in the development but then don’t use it? ?
We deliberately chose a large plot because we want to have plenty of space to develop the garden later. We don’t want to place the house in the middle or further back; instead, we prefer to have as much connected, usable garden area as possible.
We have this dilemma in our development area, and I find it disappointing… the house with the large glass facade and Bauhaus style unfortunately only got the smallest plot during allocation, while on the best lot with a view and a quiet location, the builder constructed a conservative townhouse with very small windows… it would have made more sense the other way around.
I think the "small" house doesn’t suit the large plot and doesn’t really make good use of it… but all the better if you’re a gardening enthusiast and don’t just plant turf and cherry laurel.
I think the "small" house doesn’t suit the large plot and doesn’t really make good use of it… but all the better if you’re a gardening enthusiast and don’t just plant turf and cherry laurel.
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motorradsilke14 Sep 2021 12:21The size of the house is completely independent of the size of the plot. The bigger the plot, the better; a large plot means more free space.
It is unfortunate that nowadays only very small, "hand towel"-sized plots are available.
It is unfortunate that nowadays only very small, "hand towel"-sized plots are available.
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