ᐅ Exterior wall insulation or perimeter insulation? Change required by the construction supervisor
Created on: 19 Aug 2017 20:39
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ArneM
Hello,
we are currently planning our new build and are about to finalize the construction contract. In the revised offer presented to us—adjusted according to our wishes—the general contractor has changed the type of insulation. He wanted to explain this to us by phone, but due to the weekend, I haven’t had the chance to discuss it with him yet.
I will also consult our KfW (German Development Bank) energy consultant about this. Nevertheless, I believe it’s helpful to get several opinions, so I would like to ask you as well.
So far, the plan was as follows:
A solidly built single-family house to KfW 40 standard
Exterior walls of 150 mm (6 inches) aerated concrete
200 mm (8 inches) cavity insulation boards KD2 with thermal conductivity 0.035 W/(m·K) WLG 035
10 mm (0.4 inches) ventilated cavity
115 mm (4.5 inches) facing bricks (cladding)
The perimeter insulation was to be made of 160 mm (6.3 inches) extruded rigid foam boards with thermal conductivity 0.038 W/(m·K) WLG 038.
Now, the perimeter insulation has been reduced to 80 mm (3 inches), and instead, the exterior wall insulation’s thermal conductivity has been improved from WLG 035 to WLG 032. Both changes are without any price difference.
I have no idea about the effects this might have or whether the better exterior wall insulation actually compensates for the reduced perimeter insulation. From my (non-expert) perspective, good perimeter insulation is very beneficial with underfloor heating, as it prevents heat loss through the foundation. Is that correct?
As mentioned, I don’t yet know the contractor’s reasons for the change. I will ask about this on Monday.
By the way, the house will be built in Hamburg on sandy soil without clay or similar material, if that’s relevant.
I would be very grateful for your help!
we are currently planning our new build and are about to finalize the construction contract. In the revised offer presented to us—adjusted according to our wishes—the general contractor has changed the type of insulation. He wanted to explain this to us by phone, but due to the weekend, I haven’t had the chance to discuss it with him yet.
I will also consult our KfW (German Development Bank) energy consultant about this. Nevertheless, I believe it’s helpful to get several opinions, so I would like to ask you as well.
So far, the plan was as follows:
A solidly built single-family house to KfW 40 standard
Exterior walls of 150 mm (6 inches) aerated concrete
200 mm (8 inches) cavity insulation boards KD2 with thermal conductivity 0.035 W/(m·K) WLG 035
10 mm (0.4 inches) ventilated cavity
115 mm (4.5 inches) facing bricks (cladding)
The perimeter insulation was to be made of 160 mm (6.3 inches) extruded rigid foam boards with thermal conductivity 0.038 W/(m·K) WLG 038.
Now, the perimeter insulation has been reduced to 80 mm (3 inches), and instead, the exterior wall insulation’s thermal conductivity has been improved from WLG 035 to WLG 032. Both changes are without any price difference.
I have no idea about the effects this might have or whether the better exterior wall insulation actually compensates for the reduced perimeter insulation. From my (non-expert) perspective, good perimeter insulation is very beneficial with underfloor heating, as it prevents heat loss through the foundation. Is that correct?
As mentioned, I don’t yet know the contractor’s reasons for the change. I will ask about this on Monday.
By the way, the house will be built in Hamburg on sandy soil without clay or similar material, if that’s relevant.
I would be very grateful for your help!
Thank you all for your feedback! I’m only now getting the chance to respond.
So far, I haven’t been concerned about the wall thicknesses. In this development area and also among friends who are currently building, I’ve seen many wall constructions similar to the ones we have planned. Basically, I trust the structural engineer on this, but I will bring up the topic again. Nothing is finalized yet.
For the electrical installations, nothing is planned to be surface-mounted. We also did not choose the brick veneer to give an impression of solidity.
I am familiar with the U-value calculator and have already used it. Naturally, the values change, but I cannot interpret them properly due to a lack of expertise. The values are as follows:
Exterior wall with WLG 035: 0.133 W/m²K (originally planned)
Exterior wall with WLG 032: 0.124 W/m²K
Concrete slab with 160mm (6.3 inches): 0.129 W/m²K (originally planned)
Concrete slab with 80mm (3.1 inches): 0.174 W/m²K
The ground floor construction will look like this:
Reinforced strip foundation 64cm (25 inches) high
Reinforced base slab 16cm (6.3 inches) high
Below the base slab, perimeter insulation made of extruded rigid foam boards, either 80mm (3.1 inches) or 160mm (6.3 inches) thick with WLG 038
Impact sound / screed insulation using Rockwool Floorrock SE WLG 035, 120mm (4.7 inches) thick
Underfloor heating
Floating cement screed, 70mm (2.8 inches) thick
I appreciate all responses, but please refrain from fundamental discussions about the KfW40 standard.
So far, I haven’t been concerned about the wall thicknesses. In this development area and also among friends who are currently building, I’ve seen many wall constructions similar to the ones we have planned. Basically, I trust the structural engineer on this, but I will bring up the topic again. Nothing is finalized yet.
For the electrical installations, nothing is planned to be surface-mounted. We also did not choose the brick veneer to give an impression of solidity.
I am familiar with the U-value calculator and have already used it. Naturally, the values change, but I cannot interpret them properly due to a lack of expertise. The values are as follows:
Exterior wall with WLG 035: 0.133 W/m²K (originally planned)
Exterior wall with WLG 032: 0.124 W/m²K
Concrete slab with 160mm (6.3 inches): 0.129 W/m²K (originally planned)
Concrete slab with 80mm (3.1 inches): 0.174 W/m²K
The ground floor construction will look like this:
Reinforced strip foundation 64cm (25 inches) high
Reinforced base slab 16cm (6.3 inches) high
Below the base slab, perimeter insulation made of extruded rigid foam boards, either 80mm (3.1 inches) or 160mm (6.3 inches) thick with WLG 038
Impact sound / screed insulation using Rockwool Floorrock SE WLG 035, 120mm (4.7 inches) thick
Underfloor heating
Floating cement screed, 70mm (2.8 inches) thick
I appreciate all responses, but please refrain from fundamental discussions about the KfW40 standard.
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