ᐅ Experiences with Junkers Heating and Ventilation Systems

Created on: 2 Jul 2014 17:21
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Frusa567
Hello,

We are planning to build a house and will start soon.
Now we have one question: our heating installer wants to install a gas boiler and ventilation system from Junkers.
So the general question is, who has experience with Junkers devices? Are they good or bad? Or would it be better to choose another manufacturer? For example, Wolf? Wolf seems to be reasonably priced.

Best regards
K
klblb
3 Jul 2014 12:14
I still don’t understand why it is supposedly not possible to compare manufacturers. Once all calculations have determined that a condensing gas boiler with an output of, for example, 3 - 18 kW (4 - 24,000 BTU/h), fully modulating, is suitable for my house, I can use this information to survey the market.

We will be going with a Viessmann Vitodens 200-W.
K
klblb
3 Jul 2014 12:54
Euro,
I wrote, "When all the calculations have concluded that...". These include, among others, the calculations and considerations you mentioned.
€uro
3 Jul 2014 13:04
Bauberatung schrieb:
I am increasingly noticing that in every available thread, you deliver rather populist all-out attacks against BT/GU/GÜ and seem to categorically condemn absolutely EVERYONE...
No, I am merely pointing out tendencies, nothing more.
I will entirely leave aside the value of construction service intermediaries along with their liability principles in terms of relevance to the client, otherwise I might end up writing a book.
Bauberatung schrieb:
... There are definitely others besides you who approach this topic conscientiously and have knowledgeable advisors in the background.
I do not doubt that! On the other hand, how such assumed backgrounds actually clarify matters for the client or become legally effective is unclear to me.
Unfortunately, the signature of the intermediary cannot be found in factory contracts!

Best regards.
B
Bauexperte
3 Jul 2014 13:52
Hello €uro,

You’ve been quite active today...
€uro schrieb:

Sorry Bauexperte, but that’s just based on my many years of professional experience.
I really don’t understand why you are addressing me in a thread where I haven’t posted; but never mind.
€uro schrieb:

If everything is better with the construction services you represent, feel free to provide me with the complete system design of a realized construction project from a forum user. I’d be happy to take a look!
I am (still) not building for forum users. My current work is limited to reviewing contract documents.

You are correct to recall this; however, the project did not originate from forum activity, nor was the issue caused by faulty system design. Since the dispute is still ongoing – with experts, attorneys, Hase, and BU all busy – I can’t tell you much more other than that, as of now, both the heating operation and Hase seem to have had a really bad day (production and installation). It’s worth mentioning that neither Hase nor BU are among our current partners.

I vaguely remember having already provided you with a complete technical building equipment design for a passive house near Bonn.

Regards, Bauexperte
€uro
3 Jul 2014 15:38
Bauexperte schrieb:
...
You remember correctly; however, the contract did not arise from forum activity, nor was the issue caused by an incorrect system sizing....
Who is liable to the contractor, surely not the construction service intermediary
Bauexperte schrieb:
...It should be mentioned that neither Hase nor BU are among our current partners...
I had a completely different impression
I will gladly look into that!
Bauexperte schrieb:
...I vaguely recall having already provided you with a complete building services design for a passive house near Bonn...
That is correct, you recommended me and I was able to assist the client!
However, I cannot judge whether this is generally how the construction services you mediate are handled.

Best regards
B
Bauexperte
3 Jul 2014 15:51
Hello,
€uro schrieb:

Who is liable to the contractor? Surely not the construction service broker.

No, why would they be? The important thing is that what I tell the potential homeowner is reflected in the contract, both verbally and in writing. It’s no different than if I were to refer your services; in that case, I am also not liable for your work.
€uro schrieb:

I remembered that completely differently.

We’re all getting older; besides, it was and still is not my construction project but an external one that I continue to support today.
€uro schrieb:

That’s correct, you recommended me, and I was able to help the client!

Hardly, you had nothing to do with the passive house project near Bonn. What is true, however, is that I shared your contact details with two forum users. But I no longer remember what it was about.

Regards, Bauexperte