Hello dear forum community,
I’ve had a somewhat crazy idea running through my mind for the past few days.
We built our house in 2015 and everything is basically perfect for us. However, in 2017 we had another child and are now five in total. Unfortunately, our house does not include three children’s bedrooms, so our two daughters share a room. That might work for now, while they are still toddlers, but I fear that this will not always be a good solution...
Since my dad and I have done a lot of the work on our house ourselves, we have been trying to come up with some ideas. Unfortunately, the floor plan does not offer many options, and realistically, only an extension is possible.
However, the building plan assigns a specific building plot. This plot is already fully utilized in all directions. Except to the north, where we still have about 8 meters (26 feet) of space... Currently, this area is occupied by our garage plus carport.
I could imagine an extension above the carport/garage here.
For that, the existing ceiling made of rafters and battens would need to be replaced with a concrete ceiling (a precast concrete slab?). I would like to keep the carport and garage as they are, and just build on top of them. The garage stands 1 meter (3 feet) outside the building plot, so I wouldn’t be able to build over the entire area. Still, this would create a floor space of about 8 x 6 meters (26 x 20 feet). Then everyone would have their space in the house...
My questions on this are:
1. Would something like this be possible, or would such a construction project be prohibited due to building regulations / planning permission?
2. Could the garage/carport be retained, or would this also be impossible due to structural engineering reasons? The concrete ceiling would need to be supported on the existing brick garage.
3. The bathroom and a new room would only have lighting through (large) roof windows—is this allowed?
4. What would be sensible or feasible regarding heating? The utility room is located right next to the carport... we have a gas boiler installed.
5. The current “parents’” bedroom would then become a large hallway—what could be done with that space?
I know there are no 100% certain answers here... I’m mostly interested in the key issues I might have missed that could turn this into a bad idea...
I’ve had a somewhat crazy idea running through my mind for the past few days.
We built our house in 2015 and everything is basically perfect for us. However, in 2017 we had another child and are now five in total. Unfortunately, our house does not include three children’s bedrooms, so our two daughters share a room. That might work for now, while they are still toddlers, but I fear that this will not always be a good solution...
Since my dad and I have done a lot of the work on our house ourselves, we have been trying to come up with some ideas. Unfortunately, the floor plan does not offer many options, and realistically, only an extension is possible.
However, the building plan assigns a specific building plot. This plot is already fully utilized in all directions. Except to the north, where we still have about 8 meters (26 feet) of space... Currently, this area is occupied by our garage plus carport.
I could imagine an extension above the carport/garage here.
For that, the existing ceiling made of rafters and battens would need to be replaced with a concrete ceiling (a precast concrete slab?). I would like to keep the carport and garage as they are, and just build on top of them. The garage stands 1 meter (3 feet) outside the building plot, so I wouldn’t be able to build over the entire area. Still, this would create a floor space of about 8 x 6 meters (26 x 20 feet). Then everyone would have their space in the house...
My questions on this are:
1. Would something like this be possible, or would such a construction project be prohibited due to building regulations / planning permission?
2. Could the garage/carport be retained, or would this also be impossible due to structural engineering reasons? The concrete ceiling would need to be supported on the existing brick garage.
3. The bathroom and a new room would only have lighting through (large) roof windows—is this allowed?
4. What would be sensible or feasible regarding heating? The utility room is located right next to the carport... we have a gas boiler installed.
5. The current “parents’” bedroom would then become a large hallway—what could be done with that space?
I know there are no 100% certain answers here... I’m mostly interested in the key issues I might have missed that could turn this into a bad idea...
Escroda schrieb:
This is not the development plan.
Do you mean east and 61cm (24 inches)? On the west side, you also have a setback violation. Is that secured by a building servitude? If so, it would need to be extended.
Why? You don’t even have one.
Only for the ancillary structures according to Section 19 (4) of the Land Use Ordinance. But with such a large plot, that shouldn’t be a problem.
Probably not, but I would want each child to have their own room. For that, I would relocate the carport and build a single-story extension with a bedroom and dressing room in its current place. Access could be through the utility room or better, a small hallway created by building a partition wall and an opening where the washing machine is currently marked.Yes... it is the official site plan... but the development plan data can be seen on it.
Yes, west... I mixed it up. On the east, the servitude is secured... we could have even built up to 2.00m (6 feet 7 inches) to the boundary.
Our planner applied for the increase in the eaves height back then. This would have also allowed us to build a two-story house without knee walls... or colloquially, a "town villa."
The idea is good but can’t be implemented because the utility lines to the utility room run through the carport and cannot be built over. The carport itself is not a problem.
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hemali200310 Jan 2019 12:30I also believe that you might not manage with the costs mentioned, including the architect, structural engineer... I would also convert the carport into a room! I think that is still the most practical solution.
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hemali200310 Jan 2019 12:41Or can the upper floor be redesigned?
Just a quick and rough sketch... can you see what I mean?
Just a quick and rough sketch... can you see what I mean?
I’m curious about the ground floor. I know a family who built without children. They planned for two children’s bedrooms. Now there are six of them; the kids live in the attic, and the parents have partially separated the spacious living room. They are happy with it.
And if your niche is only 2.5 x 2.5 meters (8 x 8 feet), it’s still enough for a bed. You just need a bit of imagination for those few years… If necessary, you could simply build an extension downstairs (it doesn’t have to be over the utility lines), like a conservatory or something, to create more space for a bed and wardrobe.
That kind of vertical extension really isn’t worth it for just a few years.
And if your niche is only 2.5 x 2.5 meters (8 x 8 feet), it’s still enough for a bed. You just need a bit of imagination for those few years… If necessary, you could simply build an extension downstairs (it doesn’t have to be over the utility lines), like a conservatory or something, to create more space for a bed and wardrobe.
That kind of vertical extension really isn’t worth it for just a few years.
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hemali200310 Jan 2019 15:11The ground floor is on the first page!
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