ᐅ Excessive Costs for the Kitchen?!

Sparfuchs_ schrieb:

yeah... because of you. It was actually very interesting until you completely messed up the topic.

I found it rather amusing, considering the thread title, the kitchen layout, and the original poster’s budget expectations.

Sparfuchs_ schrieb:

until you have completely ruined the topic.

Come on, don't make such a big deal out of it, everyone can just scroll past. In the previous 149 posts, maybe 119 could be removed for being off-topic, and still everyone would be able to say what they think. At most, 30% of them were about the direct topic; the rest were about whether Poland yes or no.

Alessandro schrieb:

I actually found it rather funny, considering the thread title, the kitchen layout, and the original poster’s budget.

Hey you, apparently we are not allowed to be funny .

kati1337 schrieb:

But for 8,000 euros, that doesn’t include delivery and installation, right?
From what I can see, delivery costs another 125 euros, and installation is charged at 250 euros per meter. So for your 6-8 meter kitchen, that would be an additional 1,500-2,000 euros for assembly.
And there’s no heavy-duty power connection included, so you’d need to hire an electrician separately and also pay their travel fees.
The quartz composite countertop costs almost 400 euros per meter. Depending on how many tall cabinets you have, the countertop alone could easily add up to 2,000-3,000 euros. So I’m not quite sure how you arrive at a total of 8,000 euros.

We configured a comparable kitchen at IKEA similar to the one our kitchen studio planned for us.
We ended up with about 13,000 euros for the cabinets and appliances. But that didn’t include installation. When I add another 2,500-3,000 euros for assembly and delivery, that’s already 15,000 euros. The difference of about 4,000 euros was worth it to us because we got Bosch appliances and a Bora cooktop with integrated extraction, as well as a countertop running around the island and into all the window reveals plus a wall finish. Some of that wouldn’t have been possible at IKEA off the shelf.

I checked my Metod planner again.
You’re right, it was only 5,300 euros with cabinets and appliances, but that didn’t include the cooktop with extractor (+1,000) or the quartz composite countertop (+2,400), nor installation. But installation can be arranged cheaper than at IKEA, and I would handle delivery myself... so it’s more like 9,000-10,000 euros all in, with farmhouse-style fronts and lighting.

nordanney schrieb:

I see it completely differently. You can easily resell brand-name jeans bought for €100 (about $108) for €80 (about $86), as long as the €100 wasn’t too expensive compared to online retailers. The same applies to electronics, child car seats, branded clothing in general, and much more—you don’t suffer losses that make you regret it for weeks. As a parent of three children, I’ve been an active seller on eBay and similar platforms for years.
But when it comes to furniture—and kitchens as well—even expensive branded furniture suffers significant initial depreciation. However, prices tend to stabilize at a low level for a long time. It hardly matters if a piece of furniture is 2 or 5 years old; the secondhand price remains quite similar.

It really depends heavily on the type of item.
With electronics, you can often get good resale values, and the same goes for children’s items.
However, furniture and clothing are exceptions. Clothing likely because of the extreme oversupply, and furniture because buying used is inconvenient. Also, kitchens that are purchased secondhand must properly fit into the new home or be adapted accordingly. These factors create disadvantages compared to buying new, resulting in a large price difference.

Tolentino schrieb:

I checked my planning software again.
You’re right, the cost was only 5300 with wood and equipment, but that didn’t include the cooktop with extractor (+1000) or the quartz countertop (+2400), nor installation. But installation can be done cheaper than at IKEA, and I would handle the delivery myself... so it’s more like 9-10k in total, but that includes farmhouse-style fronts and lighting.

For example, we have a tradesperson who mainly installs kitchens. By agreement, we assembled the cabinets ourselves, which is the majority of the work. He then put the kitchen together in one day, connected the water, stove, etc., and finished. The cost was just under €400 for 8 hours of work.
I have to say we were probably lucky with this tradesperson, but you need luck in other areas too. You can also choose the countertop from elsewhere if you want or make individual adjustments.

kati1337 schrieb:

It really depends a lot on the goods.
You can often get good resale prices for electronics. Children’s items as well.
However, furniture and clothing are different cases. Clothing probably because of extreme oversupply, and furniture because it’s difficult to buy secondhand, plus kitchens need to fit correctly in the new home or require refitting. There are definitely disadvantages compared to buying new, which create a significant price difference.

Yes, for those who enjoy it, it’s a chance to get something great. Many people don’t like the conditions around it; acquaintances can’t imagine how we manage it ourselves. But if you have experience, it can be fun and much more cost-effective.
I definitely don’t want to sit on a beaten-up sofa, so you have to look carefully. Often, a direct phone call helps to get a sense of the other person and whether you can rely on them.
We, at least, have had excellent experiences and now “know” the market and options quite well. You just have to be willing to move away from what’s usual or traditional if you want to do something like this.