ᐅ Excessive Costs for the Kitchen?!

evelinoz schrieb:

It's amazing how much value a kitchen still has after just a few years.

That suggests that even when buying, the purchase price does not reflect the actual value of the kitchen, but is significantly inflated.

Of course, you often have to search for a while and be patient, but we have purchased special pieces of furniture, each in excellent condition and used, that we would never have bought new. I would recommend searching exclusively within the range of high-quality products or brands because owners of these items usually take good care of them. Items are often sold for various personal reasons. Transport and disassembly are no longer an issue nowadays, as there are plenty of options available. Naturally, you won’t always get the exact dimensions you need in the kitchen area, but friends of ours have, for example, put together a really great modular kitchen this way.

Whether you like this approach is, of course, a matter of personal preference. For example, I’m less fond of flea market items or second-hand stores like the ones mentioned here—that’s not for me. However, if you search nationwide in the segment of top-quality products, you will eventually find something that is almost unused and available at an absolute bargain price.

For us, this has become more of a hobby over time, but through this method we have acquired what I consider truly elegant furnishings—timeless furniture classics that can bring joy for a lifetime.

For those who don’t prefer private contacts, seating furniture can, for example, be purchased through companies such as “Revive” from Cologne; it’s somewhat more expensive there but a great company with excellent products.

nordanney schrieb:

It actually suggests that even when buying, the purchase price doesn’t reflect the actual value of the kitchen, but is significantly overestimated.

But that’s the case with almost everything. I think it’s because used goods are generally much less popular than new ones.
Try reselling a pair of brand-name jeans you bought for €100 (about $110) in store as “like new” if they have a slight discomfort somewhere. You’d be lucky to get $10 for them.

Alessandro schrieb:

You are neither the ethics police nor do you get to tell me which examples I should use for comparisons!

You publicly judge other people, and so I respond just as publicly with how I feel about it.
You don’t seem to like contradiction much because you think you know how the world should run:

Alessandro schrieb:

Just accept it!

Yes, I accept that you say it, but I do not accept that this is how things are. Is that so hard to bear?

Alessandro schrieb:

Of course, you can always learn something from everyone

Alessandro schrieb:

What can I learn from someone who thinks uneconomically but happily accepts social benefits from the state?

So, what is it? Can you or can you not?

Alessandro schrieb:

Because people are generous and seeing it as THE solution just doesn’t work

Nobody ever claimed it was THE solution, and yet people like that are allowed to exist. Whenever someone offers THE solution, I get alert anyway.
You don’t have to personally give them anything; the state only gives them what they are entitled to. The state also gives you subsidies for your house. Just to clarify, I’m not saying I necessarily approve of this, and I have spent most of my professional life dealing with socially challenging environments to be able to consider this with some nuance.
Our wealth—yours and mine—largely depends on or causes the poverty of other peoples, or can you name any German natural resources from which our products are made? A great story is behind our fancy espresso just as it is behind cocoa, and these stories are often terrible. Anyone who fundamentally refuses to see this justifiably lives in a gated community. Still, it’s something to occasionally reflect on and examine oneself.
I certainly don’t have THE solution, but I am always bothered by emerging ways of expression, especially when these are already considered "normal" and the condescending tone is no longer even noticed. Therefore, I even invite you to seriously criticize me if I ever write anything that could hurt someone.

Alessandro schrieb:

You write here about "stranded" and "uneconomical people." What can we learn from them?

I think quite a lot—from Gandhi to Jesus, Mozart, the former drummer of Carlos Santana, Pippi Longstocking, and countless others, all economically useless characters… They didn’t invent the calculator or self-optimization, that’s true.

Alessandro schrieb:

This was about Germany’s economy and awarding contracts to foreign companies

No, that’s wrong. Actually, it’s about "excessive kitchen costs." But if you take a strong position, it doesn’t necessarily end where you’d like it to. As you can read in various places, one can look at things more broadly or narrowly, or even see them completely differently.
I’ll leave you your opinion; I just find it arrogant concerning the topics you yourself mentioned: welfare benefits, the Ritter family, garbage can scavengers, etc.
To quote you again:

Alessandro schrieb:

Just accept it!

By the way, I happened to watch yesterday the "Video of the Year 2019," an interview with David Precht, which specifically discusses judging people solely by their economic value. In my opinion, this way of thinking is outdated—just like heating oil, natural gas, or diesel. We’re starting to understand this faster in those areas.
So—go ahead and fire back again, but I stand by the fact that I do not view my life and that of others primarily through an economic lens, and I can handle that you see it differently.

Do you have it then?

--> Please settle this via private message.

Sparfuchs_ schrieb:

have you got it then?

Taking a moment to save the world between kitchen installations; there has to be time for that.
We are on page --24--, and that's not even in a forum about kitchens. Most of it was already covered by page 5 anyway.