We are currently looking for a kitchen for our new build, which is scheduled to start in 2021. Nothing extravagant. Our first two visits to kitchen showrooms resulted in prices of at least 15,000 euros (around $16,000 USD), plus the side-by-side refrigerator that we plan to buy ourselves.
We are a bit surprised that for just a few pieces of furniture and three appliances (dishwasher, cooktop with fan, oven) we have to pay at least 15,000 euros. The consultants actually expected around 20,000 euros. The countertop is not even ceramic but rather granite.
Are there other options to purchase an affordable kitchen?
Please don’t get me wrong. We could afford such a kitchen. We just don’t see why we should spend 20,000 euros on a few furniture pieces and appliances.
We are a bit surprised that for just a few pieces of furniture and three appliances (dishwasher, cooktop with fan, oven) we have to pay at least 15,000 euros. The consultants actually expected around 20,000 euros. The countertop is not even ceramic but rather granite.
Are there other options to purchase an affordable kitchen?
Please don’t get me wrong. We could afford such a kitchen. We just don’t see why we should spend 20,000 euros on a few furniture pieces and appliances.
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hampshire26 Oct 2020 10:43Alessandro schrieb:
Your attitude is similar to that of many social welfare recipients:
Whether I go to work or not doesn’t matter. There are plenty of others who work anyway. What difference would I make? Wow, that’s full of prejudice.
Alessandro schrieb:
Your attitude is similar to that of many people receiving basic welfare benefits: Whether I work or not doesn’t really matter. There are plenty of others working anyway. What difference does it make if I do?Dr. Freud would say hello. If you knew my profession and that I have never been unemployed / have a higher degree, you wouldn’t talk nonsense like that.
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Alessandro26 Oct 2020 10:48These are not prejudices, but personal experiences. Replace "viele Hart4 Empfänger" with "some."
I don’t speak a word of Stutz (whatever that is). I just meant to say that you apparently don’t recognize the scale of your actions...
I don’t speak a word of Stutz (whatever that is). I just meant to say that you apparently don’t recognize the scale of your actions...
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Nice-Nofret26 Oct 2020 11:20I installed Metod in my pantry – the 80 cm (31.5 inches) drawers sag over time; the quality does NOT hold up compared to a proper kitchen. I have a direct comparison.
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nordanney26 Oct 2020 11:47Nice-Nofret schrieb:
The 80s-style drawers are sagging after all.Maybe try removing about half a hundredweight of contents. The drawers are technically the same for most kitchens since they come from the same manufacturer and production line.
@Alessandro and @saralina87 I already understood where you are coming from, but sorry, no, to me this is not really about supporting the local community—it’s simply a form of mercantilism. That’s naive.
Think about it this way: If more people in Germany buy their kitchens in Poland, Polish kitchen manufacturers will buy more machinery from Germany. That’s good. If the quality is actually worse, more people will buy from German kitchen makers again. But that’s not really what I mean, and I don’t think it’s what @hampshire meant either.
When I think of the local community, I picture a carpenter working in a backyard workshop. The problem is, as I said, for a kitchen like the one I have in mind, they want about 5 to 10 times the price of IKEA (I’ve already asked). And it doesn’t matter to them whether I buy a kitchen from East Westphalia or Poland if they don’t get the order. When the kitchen breaks down, I still call them and they can repair it—for a really high price.
By the way, since the poor German butchers have already been mentioned here, German pork is flooding world markets at bargain prices. That, however, is a completely different discussion. The issue of big chains versus small independent retailers is actually another topic as well.
In the end, all I can say is: if the price difference was 5 to 10%, yes, I would rather contact the local craftsman. But it’s 50 to 80% (from the carpenter compared to IKEA, from Germany to Poland maybe around 30% in general). I really can’t afford that price premium. And once I’m already dealing with a nationwide retailer, I simply don’t think in nationalist terms. That’s completely foreign to me. In my other actions, I try to contribute to making national borders matter less and less because these borders only exist in people’s minds.
Think about it this way: If more people in Germany buy their kitchens in Poland, Polish kitchen manufacturers will buy more machinery from Germany. That’s good. If the quality is actually worse, more people will buy from German kitchen makers again. But that’s not really what I mean, and I don’t think it’s what @hampshire meant either.
When I think of the local community, I picture a carpenter working in a backyard workshop. The problem is, as I said, for a kitchen like the one I have in mind, they want about 5 to 10 times the price of IKEA (I’ve already asked). And it doesn’t matter to them whether I buy a kitchen from East Westphalia or Poland if they don’t get the order. When the kitchen breaks down, I still call them and they can repair it—for a really high price.
By the way, since the poor German butchers have already been mentioned here, German pork is flooding world markets at bargain prices. That, however, is a completely different discussion. The issue of big chains versus small independent retailers is actually another topic as well.
In the end, all I can say is: if the price difference was 5 to 10%, yes, I would rather contact the local craftsman. But it’s 50 to 80% (from the carpenter compared to IKEA, from Germany to Poland maybe around 30% in general). I really can’t afford that price premium. And once I’m already dealing with a nationwide retailer, I simply don’t think in nationalist terms. That’s completely foreign to me. In my other actions, I try to contribute to making national borders matter less and less because these borders only exist in people’s minds.
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