Hi everyone,
things are starting to get serious for us. It’s time to think about the basic locations and quantities of power outlets, light fixtures, network connections, satellite connections, and conduit pipes.
I’ve roughly sketched and attached my current planning status. Maybe someone has helpful feedback for me? Does anyone see a spot where I definitely need a network connection, conduit, or something similar?
To explain:
· We’re also installing a controlled mechanical ventilation system, which will be embedded in the screed of the basement ceiling and the ground floor ceiling. Because of this, we can’t lay conduits inside the screed insulation, as that would interfere with the ventilation’s oval ducts. I’m also generally not a fan of conduits with bends and curves. Therefore, my plan is to run conduits vertically down the walls to the basement whenever possible and then gather the cables there in cable trays.
· The current plan shows a full installation of satellite connections and network outlets. All of these will be laid in conduits that will only be filled “when needed.” Child 1 is currently 16 months old, and Child 2 is still in planning. So it will be at least 10 years before satellite or network connections are needed in the children’s rooms. By then, there will probably be entirely different technologies.
· The recessed ceiling spots will be cast into the precast concrete ceiling, so there will be no suspended ceiling.
· The various conduits on the ground floor will simply run straight down to the basement. From there, I can route the cables openly below the ceiling to the switch, satellite system, or 5.1 receiver (which will be located under the TV in the living room).
· Likewise, the cables for network and satellite from the guest room, living room, and bedroom will be laid in conduits running straight down. The endpoint is again at the basement ceiling exit. From there, cable routing will be either open or in cable trays.
· In the office on the upper floor, there is a small tech shaft that runs down through the pantry on the ground floor into the technical/laundry basement. The cables for the office and Child 1’s room will run through this shaft.
· Child 2’s room is still a bit of a concern. The room is completely cantilevered over the living room, so there is no wall underneath where I could run a conduit down. I would have to somehow work through the dressing room. In the worst case, I’d route the cables openly in the dressing room and then together with the bedroom cables down to the basement.
· In general, I am only having conduits and empty boxes prepared inside the walls; I will install the network and satellite system myself.
Thanks and best regards,
Andreas
things are starting to get serious for us. It’s time to think about the basic locations and quantities of power outlets, light fixtures, network connections, satellite connections, and conduit pipes.
I’ve roughly sketched and attached my current planning status. Maybe someone has helpful feedback for me? Does anyone see a spot where I definitely need a network connection, conduit, or something similar?
To explain:
· We’re also installing a controlled mechanical ventilation system, which will be embedded in the screed of the basement ceiling and the ground floor ceiling. Because of this, we can’t lay conduits inside the screed insulation, as that would interfere with the ventilation’s oval ducts. I’m also generally not a fan of conduits with bends and curves. Therefore, my plan is to run conduits vertically down the walls to the basement whenever possible and then gather the cables there in cable trays.
· The current plan shows a full installation of satellite connections and network outlets. All of these will be laid in conduits that will only be filled “when needed.” Child 1 is currently 16 months old, and Child 2 is still in planning. So it will be at least 10 years before satellite or network connections are needed in the children’s rooms. By then, there will probably be entirely different technologies.
· The recessed ceiling spots will be cast into the precast concrete ceiling, so there will be no suspended ceiling.
· The various conduits on the ground floor will simply run straight down to the basement. From there, I can route the cables openly below the ceiling to the switch, satellite system, or 5.1 receiver (which will be located under the TV in the living room).
· Likewise, the cables for network and satellite from the guest room, living room, and bedroom will be laid in conduits running straight down. The endpoint is again at the basement ceiling exit. From there, cable routing will be either open or in cable trays.
· In the office on the upper floor, there is a small tech shaft that runs down through the pantry on the ground floor into the technical/laundry basement. The cables for the office and Child 1’s room will run through this shaft.
· Child 2’s room is still a bit of a concern. The room is completely cantilevered over the living room, so there is no wall underneath where I could run a conduit down. I would have to somehow work through the dressing room. In the worst case, I’d route the cables openly in the dressing room and then together with the bedroom cables down to the basement.
· In general, I am only having conduits and empty boxes prepared inside the walls; I will install the network and satellite system myself.
Thanks and best regards,
Andreas
@Uwe82
Regarding the kitchen, sorry, it’s hard to see clearly. The oven is at position 8, and the spotlight is almost directly above it.
At the bottom right, there should be a small corner bench measuring 160cm by 120cm (63 inches by 47 inches) along with a table. I don’t have a better drawing handy at the moment.
Best regards,
Andreas
Regarding the kitchen, sorry, it’s hard to see clearly. The oven is at position 8, and the spotlight is almost directly above it.
At the bottom right, there should be a small corner bench measuring 160cm by 120cm (63 inches by 47 inches) along with a table. I don’t have a better drawing handy at the moment.
Best regards,
Andreas
@ Vitalo
Ok, good point, thanks, I’ll give it some more thought. Currently, a 5-watt GU10 LED spotlight is planned above the stairs, which easily corresponds to 50-60 watts halogen. That really brightens up the area quite well...
Upstairs in the hallway, it would then only be 3 watts LED; otherwise, you’d need sunglasses there.
But I’m now aware of it, thanks!
Best regards,
Andreas
Ok, good point, thanks, I’ll give it some more thought. Currently, a 5-watt GU10 LED spotlight is planned above the stairs, which easily corresponds to 50-60 watts halogen. That really brightens up the area quite well...
Upstairs in the hallway, it would then only be 3 watts LED; otherwise, you’d need sunglasses there.
But I’m now aware of it, thanks!
Best regards,
Andreas
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Sebastian792 Mar 2016 19:37Two exhaust vents in one (even very small) room are unnecessary – do you really think the smell will disappear faster that way?
During the shell construction, you will still have to decide again where it makes sense to place lights and especially outlets.
During the shell construction, you will still have to decide again where it makes sense to place lights and especially outlets.
andimann schrieb:
Regarding the kitchen, sorry, it’s hard to see. The oven is at position 8, and the spotlight is almost exactly above it. OK, that already softens it. In a smaller kitchen, we have eight 3.5W LED spots distributed, which illuminates well, plus another two over a seating area on the dining side. I think it’s either spotlights or regular lighting in the kitchen; I don’t find a combination that appealing. But that’s a matter of personal taste.
Sebastian79 schrieb:
During the shell construction phase, you’ll definitely reconsider where it makes sense to place lights and especially electrical boxes. Oh yes, that’s true: I added approximately 16 extra boxes (power, LAN, satellite) and several additional lighting points. This includes the mentioned box for an access point, which will be located right in the center of the house.
But since we did everything ourselves, the originally planned quantity was underestimated from the start.
Hi Uwe,
Touché! You’re right. Having both recessed lights and a regular lamp in the kitchen is not a good idea. The lamp will be replaced by one more recessed light!
And here,
You’re probably right here as well. This whole exercise is not meant to be a final plan yet, but just to help figure out roughly how many boxes are needed and where. It’s undisputed that some adjustments will be made later. Only the recessed lights are fixed once the ceiling is poured...
Best regards,
Andreas
Uwe82 schrieb:
I think it’s either recessed lights or regular lighting in the kitchen, I don’t really like the idea of combining them.
Touché! You’re right. Having both recessed lights and a regular lamp in the kitchen is not a good idea. The lamp will be replaced by one more recessed light!
And here,
Sebastian79 schrieb:
During the shell construction stage, you’ll still have to decide where it makes sense to place fixtures and especially electrical boxes.
You’re probably right here as well. This whole exercise is not meant to be a final plan yet, but just to help figure out roughly how many boxes are needed and where. It’s undisputed that some adjustments will be made later. Only the recessed lights are fixed once the ceiling is poured...
Best regards,
Andreas
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