ᐅ Electrical Planning – Is Something Missing?

Created on: 2 Mar 2016 14:14
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andimann
Hi everyone,

things are starting to get serious for us. It’s time to think about the basic locations and quantities of power outlets, light fixtures, network connections, satellite connections, and conduit pipes.

I’ve roughly sketched and attached my current planning status. Maybe someone has helpful feedback for me? Does anyone see a spot where I definitely need a network connection, conduit, or something similar?

To explain:

· We’re also installing a controlled mechanical ventilation system, which will be embedded in the screed of the basement ceiling and the ground floor ceiling. Because of this, we can’t lay conduits inside the screed insulation, as that would interfere with the ventilation’s oval ducts. I’m also generally not a fan of conduits with bends and curves. Therefore, my plan is to run conduits vertically down the walls to the basement whenever possible and then gather the cables there in cable trays.

· The current plan shows a full installation of satellite connections and network outlets. All of these will be laid in conduits that will only be filled “when needed.” Child 1 is currently 16 months old, and Child 2 is still in planning. So it will be at least 10 years before satellite or network connections are needed in the children’s rooms. By then, there will probably be entirely different technologies.

· The recessed ceiling spots will be cast into the precast concrete ceiling, so there will be no suspended ceiling.

· The various conduits on the ground floor will simply run straight down to the basement. From there, I can route the cables openly below the ceiling to the switch, satellite system, or 5.1 receiver (which will be located under the TV in the living room).

· Likewise, the cables for network and satellite from the guest room, living room, and bedroom will be laid in conduits running straight down. The endpoint is again at the basement ceiling exit. From there, cable routing will be either open or in cable trays.

· In the office on the upper floor, there is a small tech shaft that runs down through the pantry on the ground floor into the technical/laundry basement. The cables for the office and Child 1’s room will run through this shaft.

· Child 2’s room is still a bit of a concern. The room is completely cantilevered over the living room, so there is no wall underneath where I could run a conduit down. I would have to somehow work through the dressing room. In the worst case, I’d route the cables openly in the dressing room and then together with the bedroom cables down to the basement.

· In general, I am only having conduits and empty boxes prepared inside the walls; I will install the network and satellite system myself.

Thanks and best regards,

Andreas
Uwe824 Mar 2016 08:40
daniels87 schrieb:
I am still considering the lighting. I always prefer indirect lighting, but it’s not always easy to achieve.

Due to our wooden beams, we will also use wall lights in some areas or create indirect lighting with a 5m (16.4 ft) LED strip mounted under the windowsill. I am still looking for the right fixtures for this, as well as something suitable for the staircase, since we will also use wall lights there instead of integrated stair lighting.
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Bieber0815
4 Mar 2016 09:24
daniels87 schrieb:
For the last five years, I basically haven’t connected any network cables. Just one for the repeater to the upper floor and basement, to the kids’ rooms, and the living room.

For me, that already makes five network cables. If the DECT base station isn’t going to stay in the utility room (basement), that adds a sixth. A guest or study room should also have a connection, making seven. (Luxury: all double outlets, which means 14 connections. Additional outlets in the kitchen, bathroom, attic, garage ...)

In the past, we didn’t even have a telephone ...
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j.bautsch
7 Mar 2016 08:20
Sebastian79 schrieb:
Wi-Fi is fine for browsing, but not suitable for streaming large amounts of data.

We stream only over Wi-Fi (Netflix, Amazon Prime Video), still inside the apartment, but we rarely have connection problems.
andimann7 Mar 2016 09:00
Hello,

j.bautsch schrieb:
We only stream via Wi-Fi (Netflix, Amazon Prime Video), still within the apartment, but we hardly ever have connection problems

“Apartment” is the key word here. Wi-Fi might still work reasonably well on a single floor, but it becomes quite difficult through reinforced concrete ceilings. And if you install floating hardwood flooring, Wi-Fi is basically out of the question. That requires impact sound insulation with an integrated vapor barrier, which is usually an aluminum foil layer. Wi-Fi simply can’t handle that…


If you want to connect multiple floors reliably, stably, and quickly, you can’t avoid using Ethernet.


Best regards,


Andreas
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Sebastian79
7 Mar 2016 12:13
Large amounts of data, not Prime or similar – the stream will be continuously adjusted anyway.
BastianB7 Mar 2016 12:22
j.bautsch schrieb:
We only stream over Wi-Fi (Netflix, Amazon Prime Video), still inside the apartment, but we hardly ever have connection issues

I suspect that "streaming large amounts of data" does not refer to video on demand.