Hi, we had our electrical consultation on Friday to discuss where everything should be installed.
Attached is a plan showing how we planned it with the electrician. Almost all our wishes were included; there were hardly any suggestions for improvement.
In the pictures, the power outlets are marked in orange.
For internet/telephone, we only have 2 lines. He wanted to charge 108€ per outlet for more lines, so we are now doing it ourselves, meaning there will be an internet connection in every room.
Living room: 4-2-4 power outlets plus TV, and 2 plus another 2 outlets.
Hallway: 1 outlet at the front and at the back, plus a telephone connection.
Utility room: besides the appliances themselves, for washing machine and dryer there are 2 individual outlets.
Guest WC: 1 outlet.
Home office: 3 power outlets plus telephone and TV, and 2 times 1 outlet.
Upstairs:
Children’s rooms: 3 outlets plus TV and 2 times 2 outlets.
Dressing room: 2 individual outlets in the middle at the top (for Ikea Pax light). Also, the light switch for the bedroom is in the dressing room... is that a good setup? (Red dot-arrow)
Bedroom: 3 outlets plus TV, and next to the bed, 3 outlets on each side (would it be better to have these lower or slightly higher so they are above the bedside table? Since baby monitors, phones, etc. are plugged in daily.)
Storage room: 2 individual outlets.
Bathroom: 2 outlets on the left side of the vanity wall. Additionally, a ceiling light in front of the shower. Are there any suggestions for improvement here? Should one outlet be left there with a spotlight that shines into the shower, or use that one outlet to install LED spots in the ceiling?
Hallway at the back: 1 outlet.
So, now the pictures follow, which hopefully are clear.
I would appreciate your feedback and suggestions for improvements.
Attached is a plan showing how we planned it with the electrician. Almost all our wishes were included; there were hardly any suggestions for improvement.
In the pictures, the power outlets are marked in orange.
For internet/telephone, we only have 2 lines. He wanted to charge 108€ per outlet for more lines, so we are now doing it ourselves, meaning there will be an internet connection in every room.
Living room: 4-2-4 power outlets plus TV, and 2 plus another 2 outlets.
Hallway: 1 outlet at the front and at the back, plus a telephone connection.
Utility room: besides the appliances themselves, for washing machine and dryer there are 2 individual outlets.
Guest WC: 1 outlet.
Home office: 3 power outlets plus telephone and TV, and 2 times 1 outlet.
Upstairs:
Children’s rooms: 3 outlets plus TV and 2 times 2 outlets.
Dressing room: 2 individual outlets in the middle at the top (for Ikea Pax light). Also, the light switch for the bedroom is in the dressing room... is that a good setup? (Red dot-arrow)
Bedroom: 3 outlets plus TV, and next to the bed, 3 outlets on each side (would it be better to have these lower or slightly higher so they are above the bedside table? Since baby monitors, phones, etc. are plugged in daily.)
Storage room: 2 individual outlets.
Bathroom: 2 outlets on the left side of the vanity wall. Additionally, a ceiling light in front of the shower. Are there any suggestions for improvement here? Should one outlet be left there with a spotlight that shines into the shower, or use that one outlet to install LED spots in the ceiling?
Hallway at the back: 1 outlet.
So, now the pictures follow, which hopefully are clear.
I would appreciate your feedback and suggestions for improvements.
B
Bau-Schmidt15 Sep 2017 08:44Yes, the plasterer does a good job.
There are electrical cables inside the corrugated conduit? Why exactly?
Some cables need to be protected and must not be installed directly, plus there is the requirement to be able to pull new cables through in the future.
I can’t imagine that corrugated conduits are allowed to be crushed. That would defeat the purpose of the conduit.
It’s also unfortunate that the electrician hasn’t even shown any willingness to review this issue critically, possibly together with others.
Therefore, I would get someone involved who can officially assess this. Maybe your acquaintance can also put this in writing.
Don’t let the schedule pressure you now. It’s better to accept some delay and have it done properly.
Some cables need to be protected and must not be installed directly, plus there is the requirement to be able to pull new cables through in the future.
I can’t imagine that corrugated conduits are allowed to be crushed. That would defeat the purpose of the conduit.
It’s also unfortunate that the electrician hasn’t even shown any willingness to review this issue critically, possibly together with others.
Therefore, I would get someone involved who can officially assess this. Maybe your acquaintance can also put this in writing.
Don’t let the schedule pressure you now. It’s better to accept some delay and have it done properly.
Hi, I’m currently at the construction site. The electrician, more precisely the journeyman, just said that everything is okay and that the cable inside the flexible conduit (satellite cable) is not pinched.
He also mentioned that he can pull the nails out a bit if needed.
The problem is that the rigid conduit itself remains pinched and doesn’t “spring back” to its original shape.
He said they will check the wiring at the end with a test measurement.
And over such a long distance, it’s not possible to pull any more cable through anyway.
He also mentioned that he can pull the nails out a bit if needed.
The problem is that the rigid conduit itself remains pinched and doesn’t “spring back” to its original shape.
He said they will check the wiring at the end with a test measurement.
And over such a long distance, it’s not possible to pull any more cable through anyway.
Yes, they still don’t comply with the DIN standards, even though they claim to. Media cables like satellite, telephone, and LAN should be installed so they can be replaced, running inside protective conduit regardless of the cable length.
Using nail clips inside the conduit also shows "top quality."
He is right, however, that power cables for roller shutter motors are no longer replaced, and NYY cables may be compressed.
But the rest is just poor workmanship...
Using nail clips inside the conduit also shows "top quality."
He is right, however, that power cables for roller shutter motors are no longer replaced, and NYY cables may be compressed.
But the rest is just poor workmanship...
S
stefanc8415 Sep 2017 18:05Phew, I wouldn’t dare to write such blunt emails; you want to maintain at least a decent relationship and keep the contractors somewhat motivated – but maybe that’s the only way to be taken seriously.
I think everything will probably work out, but to me, quality work would look different, and I would want to have some of the wiring replaced.
Especially when it comes to data cables, most electricians don’t really understand how sensitive they are. It’s better to do it yourself if you have the opportunity – and if you can do it better yourself.
I think everything will probably work out, but to me, quality work would look different, and I would want to have some of the wiring replaced.
Especially when it comes to data cables, most electricians don’t really understand how sensitive they are. It’s better to do it yourself if you have the opportunity – and if you can do it better yourself.
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