Hello,
I am looking for an electrician who could review my electrical plan. I am especially concerned about the layout and the number of (LED) spotlights, which are causing me sleepless nights.
I am open to any suggestions......
Thank you and best regards
I am looking for an electrician who could review my electrical plan. I am especially concerned about the layout and the number of (LED) spotlights, which are causing me sleepless nights.
I am open to any suggestions......
Thank you and best regards
J
Jake1234526 Dec 2019 22:21bauenmk2020 schrieb:
I also noticed the large gap in the kitchen:
Why not move the peninsula closer to the kitchen cabinets and change the double casement window to a single casement? Or fix one side of the window and place the kitchen island in front of it. Or have a simple window with a floor-to-ceiling window next to it on the right. The island would then have a bar counter with two stools facing the opening to the room. We have already covered that topic; we consciously decided on this design. Now my focus is really only on the electrical work.
J
Jake1234526 Dec 2019 22:23hanse987 schrieb:
The shower is now estimated at 1.2 m² (13 ft²). One should be enough.It is 1.7 m² (18 ft²). But you are probably right and one will be sufficient. I am a layperson in this field, which is why I am asking. Thanks!
The kitchen topic might be settled, but is the displayed plan the actual one? Who else is supposed to review your lighting plans? However, if you are as resistant to advice here as you were with the row spacing of more than 200cm (80 inches), then the discussion is pointless.
Oh. My. God.
First of all, recessed spotlights *can* create nice lighting in the living room or bedroom, but not with those €11 ones you have. They are warm white—get cold white for the bathroom/kitchen. 2700 K is already quite yellowish. I would go for around 3000 K.
380 lumens is massively oversized. With that many lights, you won’t be able to walk around the house with your eyes open.
I get the impression you’re trying to build some kind of designer house with all these lights. Has your electrician seen and approved this plan?
I’ll start from the bottom... Kitchen: 5 spotlights are enough. Three in a row over the sink and two others offset to the left. Add a standard dimmable ceiling outlet above the island, assuming you don’t have a hood above it. Otherwise, put two individual spotlights over the island—you don’t have to align them perfectly. Make sure the lighting over the island can be switched separately. By the way, with the spots placed as you have them, they’ll cast shadows when you’re working at the countertop.
Why do you need a data outlet next to the sofa?
I’d plan wall outlets, for example on the left and right side of the dining table.
Skip spotlights in the living area altogether and just install a ceiling outlet. You don’t want professional-grade lighting there; you want cozy lighting while sitting on the couch.
Guest room bottom left? A double socket next to the door looks visually terrible.
I would center the sockets and data outlets near the wardrobe.
Hallway...
A double socket next to the front door looks bad.
Four spotlights are enough—three centered and one aimed toward the front door. Add a wall outlet in the rear left corner.
Where is the distribution board supposed to go in the utility room? Above the main house entry? I can’t make sense of this in the drawing... It’s quite tight for all of this. The door to the right might also cause problems.
No spotlights there at all?
Bathroom: 2 spotlights along the length and one wall outlet.
I don’t quite understand the stair lighting... It looks haphazard?
There’s no outdoor lighting at all?
Upstairs... What on earth do you need 4 sockets by the bed for?
Remove all the spotlights. One ceiling outlet is enough. Same for the walk-in closet.
Three sockets next to a door look even worse than two... What could you possibly need 3 sockets for? One is completely sufficient for vacuuming or similar. Better plan for two switchable sockets in the middle of the closets for possible internal lighting.
For the bathroom, I would install five spotlights: one above the toilet, one above the shower, three along the bathtub plus a wall outlet near the mirror.
Bottom left room: sockets/data/TV should be centered on the wall again.
Top left room might get tight under the bed... More on that at the end.
Hallway: 3 spotlights along the length. Keep them centered with one in the corridor section.
Just a quick overview... If you really don’t want to spare any cost, go to a lighting designer. They’ll tell you exactly what you need, but then your spotlights will cost €100 rather than €10. We also use cheap ones from Amazon, but with the right specifications. Unfortunately, you might have to accept some compromises in the look.
By the way, you can only have a maximum of five switches per frame—which means in many places you end up with “two frames” side by side: one double and one quad switch. Since a lot of that is hidden behind cabinets or similar, it’s not too bad, but some people find it annoying. Especially in the top left room upstairs, it won’t look good and could be quite tight with the bed placement. Your current plan seems more about quantity than quality. I also find some of the socket numbers exaggerated.
First of all, recessed spotlights *can* create nice lighting in the living room or bedroom, but not with those €11 ones you have. They are warm white—get cold white for the bathroom/kitchen. 2700 K is already quite yellowish. I would go for around 3000 K.
380 lumens is massively oversized. With that many lights, you won’t be able to walk around the house with your eyes open.
I get the impression you’re trying to build some kind of designer house with all these lights. Has your electrician seen and approved this plan?
I’ll start from the bottom... Kitchen: 5 spotlights are enough. Three in a row over the sink and two others offset to the left. Add a standard dimmable ceiling outlet above the island, assuming you don’t have a hood above it. Otherwise, put two individual spotlights over the island—you don’t have to align them perfectly. Make sure the lighting over the island can be switched separately. By the way, with the spots placed as you have them, they’ll cast shadows when you’re working at the countertop.
Why do you need a data outlet next to the sofa?
I’d plan wall outlets, for example on the left and right side of the dining table.
Skip spotlights in the living area altogether and just install a ceiling outlet. You don’t want professional-grade lighting there; you want cozy lighting while sitting on the couch.
Guest room bottom left? A double socket next to the door looks visually terrible.
I would center the sockets and data outlets near the wardrobe.
Hallway...
A double socket next to the front door looks bad.
Four spotlights are enough—three centered and one aimed toward the front door. Add a wall outlet in the rear left corner.
Where is the distribution board supposed to go in the utility room? Above the main house entry? I can’t make sense of this in the drawing... It’s quite tight for all of this. The door to the right might also cause problems.
No spotlights there at all?
Bathroom: 2 spotlights along the length and one wall outlet.
I don’t quite understand the stair lighting... It looks haphazard?
There’s no outdoor lighting at all?
Upstairs... What on earth do you need 4 sockets by the bed for?
Remove all the spotlights. One ceiling outlet is enough. Same for the walk-in closet.
Three sockets next to a door look even worse than two... What could you possibly need 3 sockets for? One is completely sufficient for vacuuming or similar. Better plan for two switchable sockets in the middle of the closets for possible internal lighting.
For the bathroom, I would install five spotlights: one above the toilet, one above the shower, three along the bathtub plus a wall outlet near the mirror.
Bottom left room: sockets/data/TV should be centered on the wall again.
Top left room might get tight under the bed... More on that at the end.
Hallway: 3 spotlights along the length. Keep them centered with one in the corridor section.
Just a quick overview... If you really don’t want to spare any cost, go to a lighting designer. They’ll tell you exactly what you need, but then your spotlights will cost €100 rather than €10. We also use cheap ones from Amazon, but with the right specifications. Unfortunately, you might have to accept some compromises in the look.
By the way, you can only have a maximum of five switches per frame—which means in many places you end up with “two frames” side by side: one double and one quad switch. Since a lot of that is hidden behind cabinets or similar, it’s not too bad, but some people find it annoying. Especially in the top left room upstairs, it won’t look good and could be quite tight with the bed placement. Your current plan seems more about quantity than quality. I also find some of the socket numbers exaggerated.
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