ᐅ Electrical Installation During the Shell Construction Phase
Created on: 20 Apr 2017 14:48
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Hendrik007
Hello everyone,
I need to finalize the electrical planning for my new apartment construction soon. I have already incorporated many great ideas from the forum, such as bedside lamps that can be switched from the door. Thanks for that.
Now I would like to ask the experts here if they know of any other useful tips. Sometimes a small effort during the rough construction phase can have a big impact, or you only realize after completion what could have been done better or differently.
Basically, the following is planned for our 4-room ground-floor apartment:
Do you have any additional ideas?
Best regards
I need to finalize the electrical planning for my new apartment construction soon. I have already incorporated many great ideas from the forum, such as bedside lamps that can be switched from the door. Thanks for that.
Now I would like to ask the experts here if they know of any other useful tips. Sometimes a small effort during the rough construction phase can have a big impact, or you only realize after completion what could have been done better or differently.
Basically, the following is planned for our 4-room ground-floor apartment:
- Power outlet in each room below the light switch
- Double power outlets in all corners of the living and bedrooms
- Sixfold power outlets where the TV will be mounted on the wall, plus empty conduit for the wall-mounted TV
- In the living room, two outlets near the entrance will be switchable for lamps (or Christmas lights)
- The same setup in the bedroom for the bedside lamps
- In the bathroom: double outlet by the mirror and in a corner where bathroom furniture will be placed, as well as under the heater and power supply to the toilet to prepare for a shower toilet
- Double outlet on the terrace and a power cable to the back of the garden (where a garden shed will be built eventually) – all switchable from inside
- Outdoor power above the terrace door in case a retractable awning is installed there
- Network cables laid in a star topology to each bedroom and the TV corner, running to the router in the storage room
- Obviously, plenty of power outlets in the kitchen
- Roller shutter switches by each window and one central switch in the hallway for all
- TV connections in each bedroom and the living room
- Telephone and internet connection point in the storage room
Do you have any additional ideas?
Best regards
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
I wouldn’t install switchable outlets nowadays, considering options like Philips Hue, wireless sockets, and similar technologies... The idea of having six outlets by the TV seems a bit excessive to me as well. Power strips with a switch are often a better solution and can even be hidden inside the media cabinet.Wow... how outdated some opinions can be...
Power strips in new builds, yuck.
Wireless sockets, yuck.
Philips Hue is nice but not more than that... and as soon as Philips stops supporting it, that’s the end of it... there are plenty of examples where product lines were discontinued...
Overall, it’s a good setup... however, I would definitely plan for at least four LAN connections near the TV and two LAN sockets in every room...
Hendrik007 schrieb:
Ultimately, most of the devices at our home already connect to the network wirelessly...Until the time arrives for heavy data loads...
Hendrik007 schrieb:
In principle, it’s a good idea, but to me that seems a bit too large and especially too expensive. Am I not reasonably safe with good network cables?Empty conduits are flexible—you might want to add power cables, network cables, or phone lines later. Even a simple control wire can be enough for the dryer in the basement to signal readiness with a light on the phone in your study.
Where your personal limit lies between precaution and overdoing it, I obviously can’t judge. I can only say from my own experience: as long as the plaster isn’t applied yet, I would always consider adding one unplanned cable alongside each planned one.
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Outdated because:
Few electrical outlets and instead many power strips were common from the mid to late last century. Today’s tenants and homeowners still have to deal with this, with all the consequences such as too few electrical circuits and overloaded wiring.
Wireless sockets belong more in retrofit projects for occasional switching and not in new construction. Because with many switching operations, LED lamps, or high loads, most of these devices fail during the warranty period or shortly afterwards.
Why Hue isn’t that great, I already explained further above...
But back on topic...
Few electrical outlets and instead many power strips were common from the mid to late last century. Today’s tenants and homeowners still have to deal with this, with all the consequences such as too few electrical circuits and overloaded wiring.
Wireless sockets belong more in retrofit projects for occasional switching and not in new construction. Because with many switching operations, LED lamps, or high loads, most of these devices fail during the warranty period or shortly afterwards.
Why Hue isn’t that great, I already explained further above...
But back on topic...
Regarding your first point, I didn’t say anything different. For the second part, there are standard solutions from manufacturers; it looks like wired connections but is more flexible and is not outdated. Hue uses a wireless standard, just like many other smart home providers.
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stefanc8420 Apr 2017 18:05I don’t find multiple power outlets in new buildings outdated. Around my TV, I currently have about 15 devices connected. Having a separate outlet for each one would be completely excessive. I won’t place more than three outlets in one spot anywhere. Switchable (master-slave) power strips are definitely advantageous here and don’t get in the way behind or inside the cabinet.
What I consider more important is having power outlets in several or all corners of each room, so you don’t have to stretch cables across the floor over several meters.
Conduits are always useful. However, if you go overboard, the structural engineer should probably have a say before making the necessary wall openings, since these holes can quickly add up and become quite large.
What I consider more important is having power outlets in several or all corners of each room, so you don’t have to stretch cables across the floor over several meters.
Conduits are always useful. However, if you go overboard, the structural engineer should probably have a say before making the necessary wall openings, since these holes can quickly add up and become quite large.
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