Hello,
we recently completed a new build. The cement screed was treated with leveling compound and primer, and adhesive vinyl was installed on top. The requirement was that we did not want the usual edge trim profiles or baseboards; instead, strips were to be cut from the vinyl itself and glued to the wall as edge trim. The wall connection was done with a very narrow joint, about 5mm (2 inches) wide. It really looked good.
However, all the joints had to be cut open again because the vinyl probably did not adhere properly and/or expanded too much. Be that as it may, that is another matter why this happened. Some planks in the middle of the room were hollow; the company has already re-glued those and plans to seal the joints again in a year. The manually cut joints currently look, of course, really bad and are wider than the previously neat silicone joint. Now a few questions arise, which I hope someone can answer so that I know whether I can put some pressure on the company:
- Since I have already seen this type of edge trim in various medical practices, can I assume that using vinyl itself as edge trim instead of the usually much wider baseboards is generally feasible in residential buildings as well?
- What is a reasonable edge gap to maintain between glued vinyl flooring and the wall to prevent damage caused by expansion?
- If in our case a silicone joint is applied all around, how much overlap should it have on the vinyl to hold properly without tearing? In other words, how many millimeters wider should the silicone joint on the floor – which is a triangular joint – be compared to the joint it is covering?
We deliberately chose the vinyl strips because we believe that the "normal" baseboards only collect dust. We were fine with the initial silicone joint, but since the company does not want to repair some roughly cut edges with new planks for economic reasons, the new joints will be wider (they also need to look uniform). When I look more closely at the old joints, it can be seen that the silicone originally overlapped the vinyl by at least 3mm (0.1 inches). If I add 3mm (0.1 inches) to the cut joint, the new silicone joint will be at least 8mm (0.3 inches) wide, sometimes up to 10mm (0.4 inches). Can I object to this and demand remedial work?
we recently completed a new build. The cement screed was treated with leveling compound and primer, and adhesive vinyl was installed on top. The requirement was that we did not want the usual edge trim profiles or baseboards; instead, strips were to be cut from the vinyl itself and glued to the wall as edge trim. The wall connection was done with a very narrow joint, about 5mm (2 inches) wide. It really looked good.
However, all the joints had to be cut open again because the vinyl probably did not adhere properly and/or expanded too much. Be that as it may, that is another matter why this happened. Some planks in the middle of the room were hollow; the company has already re-glued those and plans to seal the joints again in a year. The manually cut joints currently look, of course, really bad and are wider than the previously neat silicone joint. Now a few questions arise, which I hope someone can answer so that I know whether I can put some pressure on the company:
- Since I have already seen this type of edge trim in various medical practices, can I assume that using vinyl itself as edge trim instead of the usually much wider baseboards is generally feasible in residential buildings as well?
- What is a reasonable edge gap to maintain between glued vinyl flooring and the wall to prevent damage caused by expansion?
- If in our case a silicone joint is applied all around, how much overlap should it have on the vinyl to hold properly without tearing? In other words, how many millimeters wider should the silicone joint on the floor – which is a triangular joint – be compared to the joint it is covering?
We deliberately chose the vinyl strips because we believe that the "normal" baseboards only collect dust. We were fine with the initial silicone joint, but since the company does not want to repair some roughly cut edges with new planks for economic reasons, the new joints will be wider (they also need to look uniform). When I look more closely at the old joints, it can be seen that the silicone originally overlapped the vinyl by at least 3mm (0.1 inches). If I add 3mm (0.1 inches) to the cut joint, the new silicone joint will be at least 8mm (0.3 inches) wide, sometimes up to 10mm (0.4 inches). Can I object to this and demand remedial work?
Did no one warn you about this method during the new build? Is the subfloor or screed really dry enough for something like this? The planks lifting could be related to moisture. You want to seal everything hermetically. Vinyl, glued also to the wall, joint with a sill, nowhere for anything to escape. I consider the whole project quite risky. Please keep the joint open for a few months now. Karsten
Whether vinyl or tile: the screed settles and shrinks during the drying year. Downwards.
Therefore, you will definitely need to replace the silicone joints between the floor covering and the skirting board after 1–2 years.
It is wise to wait and accept living with the gap in the meantime.
Everyone else ends up having to replace it faster than they have gotten used to it.
Regards, Yvonne
Therefore, you will definitely need to replace the silicone joints between the floor covering and the skirting board after 1–2 years.
It is wise to wait and accept living with the gap in the meantime.
Everyone else ends up having to replace it faster than they have gotten used to it.
Regards, Yvonne
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Caspar20209 Sep 2017 06:33It is not built up; rather, it is vinyl cladding, similar to tiles.
No, I wasn’t warned about this beforehand, but that’s not really the issue since the company generally acknowledges the warranty and intends to renew the joint. My problem is that due to the sloppy removal of the old joint, the new joint is increasing from 5mm (0.2 inches) to 8–10mm (0.3–0.4 inches), making it sometimes twice as wide as before, because for "economic reasons" they don’t want to replace the edge boards. I wanted to know if anyone can contribute anything here, whether there’s a basis for me to insist on a complete repair or if I just have to accept it as is?
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