Hello dear members,
I discovered your lovely forum thanks to Google. Unfortunately, as is often the case, a problem has brought me here.
We are building an extension onto an existing semi-detached house in Baden-Württemberg.
We are building on a slab foundation. The friendly neighbor built his half with a basement.
We live 70 kilometers (about 43 miles) away from the construction site.
Therefore, with both of us working and having two children, we cannot be at the site all the time.
Yesterday morning, the workers began setting the formwork for the slab foundation.
When I arrived at the site yesterday, my friendly neighbor was already there waiting for me.
He yelled at me quite loudly and was extremely angry.
He said that the slab foundation towards his side was insulated only with Styrodur (extruded polystyrene).
One of the workers tried to explain that in addition to the Styrodur, a 4 cm (1.6 inch) soundproofing wall would be installed along the house.
Still, he did not calm down.
He just kept yelling. He said he would take pictures and that he would refuse to pay.
We have no intention of demanding any money from him.
I was really shocked!!!
Actually, he should be worried, since he built 3 cm (1.2 inches) of his house’s total length over our property boundary.
What is the legal situation here?
I told my husband about it.
He wanted to see a lawyer right away.
For me, maintaining peace with the neighbor is more important.
Please excuse my spelling mistakes and my lack of knowledge. I have two children and need to keep them happy at the same time.
Thank you,
Sandra
I discovered your lovely forum thanks to Google. Unfortunately, as is often the case, a problem has brought me here.
We are building an extension onto an existing semi-detached house in Baden-Württemberg.
We are building on a slab foundation. The friendly neighbor built his half with a basement.
We live 70 kilometers (about 43 miles) away from the construction site.
Therefore, with both of us working and having two children, we cannot be at the site all the time.
Yesterday morning, the workers began setting the formwork for the slab foundation.
When I arrived at the site yesterday, my friendly neighbor was already there waiting for me.
He yelled at me quite loudly and was extremely angry.
He said that the slab foundation towards his side was insulated only with Styrodur (extruded polystyrene).
One of the workers tried to explain that in addition to the Styrodur, a 4 cm (1.6 inch) soundproofing wall would be installed along the house.
Still, he did not calm down.
He just kept yelling. He said he would take pictures and that he would refuse to pay.
We have no intention of demanding any money from him.
I was really shocked!!!
Actually, he should be worried, since he built 3 cm (1.2 inches) of his house’s total length over our property boundary.
What is the legal situation here?
I told my husband about it.
He wanted to see a lawyer right away.
For me, maintaining peace with the neighbor is more important.
Please excuse my spelling mistakes and my lack of knowledge. I have two children and need to keep them happy at the same time.
Thank you,
Sandra
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nordanney17 Apr 2020 09:37Steven schrieb:
I love children too. But I also appreciate my peace and quiet.However, it seems you have the advantage of being able to communicate reasonably.Steven schrieb:
for me, that is completely understandable.What I find shocking is this stereotyping – kids mean the peace is gone – and the immediate conclusion to sell the house without even giving the new neighbors a chance. If the new family next door actually turns out to be loud and annoying, you can still decide to take action then.
In your case, the equivalent would have been to buy the plot of land to prevent anyone from building there. That I would have understood better.
Altai schrieb:
immediately selling the home.Well, people should still be allowed to sell their house. To me, it’s starting to sound like the elderly couple is expected to live there and put up with the children’s noise.kaho674 schrieb:
Well, you should still be allowed to sell your house. To me, it’s starting to sound like the older couple is expected to live there and tolerate the noise from the children.@Altai described it well .....
I also can’t stand parents who just ignore their children’s screaming .....
When my kids are louder sometimes (which is normal), I kindly ask them to keep it down because of the neighbors .....
So far, no neighbor has complained about our children.
The main issue here seems to be more about "there are children, so the house has to be sold."
Altai schrieb:
- Kids, and peace is gone -HelloThat’s often how it is.
Of course, it’s understandable that parents no longer hear the noise and are glad when their children can play outside. This is where the potential for conflict arises.
A long time ago, I had a second apartment (for work) in a distant city. Several apartment blocks were arranged around a courtyard. The courtyard was paved. Three parents had discovered this space as a refuge for their children. The kids could play unsupervised, which they did extensively. The worst part was the tricycles with plastic wheels. Incredibly loud. When I asked the parents to replace the plastic wheels with rubber ones (which I found was easily possible), this was firmly refused for cost reasons. Eventually, I looked for another apartment. Also, the communication among the parents and with the little troublemakers was often shouting from balcony to balcony.
Steven
kaho674 schrieb:
Well, people are still allowed to sell their house. To me, it almost sounds like the older couple is expected to live there and tolerate the noise from children. Of course, people can sell their house if they want to. I just think this is quite a strong reaction as a preventive measure. Most people have an attachment to their home.
But maybe there were other reasons: the house was too large, managing it became difficult (were they already elderly?), and this was just the final push. We don’t know that.
I also often tell my children to be quieter – the noise bothers me too when it gets loud.
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