Hello,
we would like to pave our driveway with Kann Vios stones in 40x20x8 cm (16x8x3 inches) in light gray.
We are currently gathering several quotes, and a landscaping contractor suggested using anthracite instead of light gray because the stones will darken over time anyway, and on the light stones, every stain (e.g., oil) is more visible.
What are your opinions or experiences with this?
We actually like the Kann Vios stones the most and would like to have a consistent color. Of course, they are not cheap. Is the additional cost compared to cheaper pavers justified, or will they not look good after a few years anyway?
The stones are offered at a net price of 47.20 plus installation.
They also offered rcl 0-32 crushed stone at 28.56 per ton and installation at 26.81 Euros per square meter.
Are these prices reasonable?
There will be additional costs for edging stones, etc., but for now, I’m mainly interested in an assessment of the prices mentioned. Thank you in advance!
we would like to pave our driveway with Kann Vios stones in 40x20x8 cm (16x8x3 inches) in light gray.
We are currently gathering several quotes, and a landscaping contractor suggested using anthracite instead of light gray because the stones will darken over time anyway, and on the light stones, every stain (e.g., oil) is more visible.
What are your opinions or experiences with this?
We actually like the Kann Vios stones the most and would like to have a consistent color. Of course, they are not cheap. Is the additional cost compared to cheaper pavers justified, or will they not look good after a few years anyway?
The stones are offered at a net price of 47.20 plus installation.
They also offered rcl 0-32 crushed stone at 28.56 per ton and installation at 26.81 Euros per square meter.
Are these prices reasonable?
There will be additional costs for edging stones, etc., but for now, I’m mainly interested in an assessment of the prices mentioned. Thank you in advance!
MachsSelbst schrieb:
It says that the installation costs are 27 EUR/m² (about 25 USD/ft²), and the pavers themselves are 47 EUR/m² (about 43 USD/ft²) before tax. Additionally, gravel and crushed stone are needed, but you would require those anyway, even with cheaper paving...
I would (and will) choose paving that I like. If you also like anthracite, go for it, since it’s reportedly easier to maintain. However, the drawback is that it gets very hot in the high summer sun and makes the already warm air even hotter...
The question is also what matches the rest of the house better. I have a yellow house, so I will choose paving in sandstone, beige, or something similar. If I have to clean it with a pressure washer every few months, so be it.
Definitely don’t choose paving just because it’s “low maintenance and will still look good in 125 years” if you don’t truly like it. Who knows what the situation will be in 10 years. At least then you’ll have enjoyed your beautiful paving in the color you wanted for 10 years.
It’s a common story: “When I retire, I’ll travel the world; I’m saving every cent now!” And suddenly, you get sick and can’t do any of that... If you want something, do it now, don’t postpone or think about 20 years from now. Especially not for something like paving...Thank you 🙂
My question is whether these prices are reasonable, too expensive, or rather cheap.
Does anyone here know the company Koll regarding paving? Our landscape gardener said they are quite common in our region and also of good quality. I’m just surprised that their paving is only half the price of paving from kann.
So, does anyone know Koll?
And is the quality of paving important? What can go wrong? Do cheaper options tend to break more easily, for example?
So, does anyone know Koll?
And is the quality of paving important? What can go wrong? Do cheaper options tend to break more easily, for example?
M
MachsSelbst17 May 2024 20:43When you search online, 47 EUR net seems quite affordable. At Benz24, the stones cost 65 EUR per m² (11.5 sq ft) when ordered as a private customer.
Personally, I find that absurdly expensive for something that a car drives over daily, with rain, snow, dirt, leaves falling on it, and so on.
I would spend that amount per m² for a terrace, but definitely not for an 80 m² (860 sq ft) driveway, parking spaces, and paths.
But I’m not a standard reference here. Nice paving—if you like it, go for it.
Personally, I find that absurdly expensive for something that a car drives over daily, with rain, snow, dirt, leaves falling on it, and so on.
I would spend that amount per m² for a terrace, but definitely not for an 80 m² (860 sq ft) driveway, parking spaces, and paths.
But I’m not a standard reference here. Nice paving—if you like it, go for it.
MachsSelbst schrieb:
If you search online, 47 EUR net seems quite cheap. At Benz24, the pavers cost 65 EUR/m² (65 EUR per square meter) if you order as a private customer.
Personally, I find it absurdly expensive for something that a car drives over every day, exposed to rain, snow, dirt, leaves, and so on.
That’s what I would spend per square meter on a terrace, but definitely not for 80 m² (80 square meters) of driveway, parking spaces, and paths.
But I’m not a standard here. Nice paving, if you like it, go for it. Our garden landscaper recommends the Knoll Aquarius paving. It’s actually an eco-friendly paving and costs only 26.99 EUR net, so just half the price.
Could it really be good? Or should I rather rely on Kann? I’ve never heard of Knoll before, but as I said, the landscaper says it’s quite common here.
I also can’t find any reviews online.
M
MachsSelbst18 May 2024 10:23It’s also tricky with Knoll, because the company is called Koll. Some people install laminate flooring for 20 EUR/m² (about 2.00 USD/sq ft) in their homes, others choose hardwood flooring for 120 EUR/m² (about 11.00 USD/sq ft). Both work fine.
In the end, it’s just a paving stone. Colored concrete with a more or less elaborate surface finish. But it remains concrete.
There is already a lot of debate about whether 6 cm (2.4 inches) is enough for a car driveway where a truck will definitely never drive over it, or if it needs to be 8 cm (3.1 inches).
Company Kann says 6 cm (2.4 inches) is more than enough, while others insist it should definitely be 8 cm (3.1 inches).
But thanks anyway for the tip, Company Koll actually has some interesting stones.
In the end, it’s just a paving stone. Colored concrete with a more or less elaborate surface finish. But it remains concrete.
There is already a lot of debate about whether 6 cm (2.4 inches) is enough for a car driveway where a truck will definitely never drive over it, or if it needs to be 8 cm (3.1 inches).
Company Kann says 6 cm (2.4 inches) is more than enough, while others insist it should definitely be 8 cm (3.1 inches).
But thanks anyway for the tip, Company Koll actually has some interesting stones.
MachsSelbst schrieb:
It’s also tricky with Knoll, because there is a company called Koll. Some people install laminate flooring at 20 EUR/m² (about 2.15 USD/sq ft) in their house, others go for hardwood flooring at 120 EUR/m² (about 12.90 USD/sq ft). Both work fine.
In the end, it’s just a paving stone. Colored concrete with a more or less elaborate surface treatment. But it’s still concrete.
There’s already a debate whether 6cm (2.4 inches) thickness is enough for a car driveway, where a truck will never drive over, or if it has to be 8cm (3.1 inches).
Company Kann says 6cm (2.4 inches) is perfectly sufficient, others insist it must be 8cm (3.1 inches).
Anyway, thanks for the tip, Koll actually has some interesting stones. Two more questions:
1. Do I need a drainage channel with eco-friendly paving stones if the slope directs water towards the street?
2. The drainage channel has a plastic grate rated for class B125. Is that sufficient?
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