Dear house building community,
After much consideration, I have decided to share our preliminary design here. As a longtime passive reader, I would like to give back to the community with this small contribution and perhaps even inspire some readers with our floor plan.
For context: We have completed the preliminary design phase with the architect and are currently gathering quotes. The house will be a prefabricated home with slightly upscale features (KfW-40 standard, Q3 plaster, ventilation system, motorized blinds, etc.) and will cost around 3000 € per square meter (about 280 per square foot). I appreciate any feedback and look forward to many comments. Feel free to critically question the design. One note: we are satisfied with the planning and do not wish to make any changes.
Let’s get started!
Basic data:
Requirements:
I have kept it brief on purpose and do not want to reveal what I like or dislike about the design just yet. Instead, I’m going to relax now and grab some popcorn. If you want to know more, feel free to visit my website (Name + “.de”).
I’m looking forward to your opinions!
After much consideration, I have decided to share our preliminary design here. As a longtime passive reader, I would like to give back to the community with this small contribution and perhaps even inspire some readers with our floor plan.
For context: We have completed the preliminary design phase with the architect and are currently gathering quotes. The house will be a prefabricated home with slightly upscale features (KfW-40 standard, Q3 plaster, ventilation system, motorized blinds, etc.) and will cost around 3000 € per square meter (about 280 per square foot). I appreciate any feedback and look forward to many comments. Feel free to critically question the design. One note: we are satisfied with the planning and do not wish to make any changes.
Let’s get started!
Basic data:
- Plot: approx. 470 m² (about 5050 sq ft) in a new development area with a slight south-facing slope (1 m (3 feet) over plot length, 0.5 m (1.5 feet) over house width)
- Neighboring plot to the north: unattractive, vacant three-story building
- Maximum budget for the construction project excluding land and possibly garden/terrace: 700,000 €
Requirements:
- 3 children’s bedrooms (each 12–14 m² (130–150 sq ft))
- Laundry or utility/laundry room
- Study room with space for double desk and guest bed
- Shower in guest bathroom
- Straight-run staircase
- Living-dining-kitchen area in an L-shape
- Space for hallway furniture
- Double garage
- 2 full stories
- Built on a slab foundation
I have kept it brief on purpose and do not want to reveal what I like or dislike about the design just yet. Instead, I’m going to relax now and grab some popcorn. If you want to know more, feel free to visit my website (Name + “.de”).
I’m looking forward to your opinions!
SliPkNoT1848 schrieb:
Have you requested quotes from local companies? We have offers ranging from 60k to 70k for 144 sqm (1550 sq ft) of floor area plus 17k for 56 sqm (600 sq ft) (garage), totaling 85k, plus 4k for drainage pipes, 3k for drainage system, 2k for inspection shaft, 6k for insulation to KfW40 standard, and 2k for graveling driveway and terrace—about 100k altogether. That seems quite high to me at the moment. The soil survey report is still pending, maybe that will have a significant (hopefully positive) impact. We have partly asked local companies. Most quotes were requested by the house builders from subcontractors. I don’t see anything unusually high there. Our garage is currently the cheapest at 30k. The foundation slab for our house size is around 30-40k.
ypg schrieb:
The hallway should invite you to enter the main rooms and live there. I only see closed-off spaces—it just doesn’t open up. And as you can see, it is very dark. In my opinion, a hallway needs to do much more. First and foremost, for me it should provide the most cost-effective access to rooms and create a space where you can comfortably get dressed or undressed. I recommend the book "A Short History of Nearly Everything," where Bill Bryson nicely describes how the function of houses has changed over the centuries. Especially the hallway has shifted from an entrance hall to a transit area. Culture is evolving, and so is the function of the home.
ypg schrieb:
Sufficient... okay.
A 90x90 cm (35x35 inch) shower with a sliding door would certainly be sufficient. Exactly. That’s the point. Depending on your needs, some things are more important than others. For example, we could have made the study smaller or done without the second shower. It’s always a matter of weighing priorities. Ultimately, you can only try to anticipate your preferences as best as possible (which can also change over time—we currently live in an apartment that is too small) and optimize your floor plan accordingly.
ypg schrieb:
I would make the hallway on the upper floor a bit more spacious, adjust the access niche in the bathroom, and move the bedroom door inward. That would also have a cozy advantage if you place the bed against the interior wall like here. The hallway would gain size and appear more inviting without negatively affecting the rooms. Thanks for the input. We’ve already considered that idea. We want to place a small, medium-height cabinet in the small niche in the bathroom. I actually prefer entering the bathroom this way rather than having a wall immediately to the right.
K a t j a schrieb:
I find that rather unnecessary if you no longer want to allow any changes. That can only lead to dissatisfaction on all sides. You can check the construction blog to see how much thought has already been put into the project. At some point, a project reaches a level of readiness where the client has to protect it and limit attempts to influence it. After all, a forum community is a special kind of in-law — and not even related by marriage.
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roteweste schrieb:
I recommend the book Funny!
roteweste schrieb:
Culture is changing, and with it the function of the house. Exactly! And you don’t have to follow this change in function yourself.
roteweste schrieb:
Feel free to critically question the design as well. roteweste schrieb:
Just ask, I’m happy to answer. To be clear: I didn’t ask.
Everyone here assumes that you or your architect had a reason for the design and that there are reasons it was implemented this way.
However, there isn’t just one “right” approach. Even if the optimal function is there, it can still be improved: visual highlights, sightlines, emotional impact... and all without extra cost. It’s undeniable that the house has little to none of these qualities.
My only question is:
roteweste schrieb:
The balcony is planned for drying laundry. You don’t really intend to display your laundry to the street, do you?!
11ant schrieb:
At some point, a project reaches a level of readiness where the client needs to protect it and limit attempts to interfere. After all, a forum community is a special kind of in-laws, even though you’re not related by marriage. Haha, very true. I’ve also shared my experience with in-laws.
ypg schrieb:
You really don’t want to hang your laundry out on the street, do you?! Let’s put it this way: I feel the same, and the balcony wasn’t even the architect’s idea.
roteweste schrieb:
On the garage. (See upper floor) Ah, got it. I didn’t look there.
roteweste schrieb:
I gave my computer another 5 minutes to process for you and tripled the light intensity.
First of all, I think it’s good that you visualized it. This can help prevent some disappointment. Increasing the brightness on the screen, however, doesn’t help you much in reality. Yvonne already explained it well. This hallway doesn’t lead visitors into the living area but narrows down to an unpleasant bottleneck. Instead of opening up into the living room, you end up among dirty pots and pans or blocking the cook.
roteweste schrieb:
In my opinion, this sums up the problem I see in many posts here quite well. Personal preferences are absolutized. In my view, this is not a good way to communicate either online or offline. That is the mistake many make. They think we are discussing personal preferences. The “participants” here are far from that. The recommendations apply universally and to everyone. It’s not about whether you prefer white or yellow walls. The aesthetics, spatial perception, or practicality of rooms in everyday life are universally valid.
roteweste schrieb:
What do YOU find uncomfortable for YOURSELF? Well, my dealbreaker is the hallway. The narrowing before the stairs looks awful right when you enter. It doesn’t guide you anywhere. On the contrary, doors and pathways remain hidden. Then the turn into the kitchen is, in my opinion, a design mistake aesthetically. The tight space at the stair landing is also problematic. Anyone coming down the stairs with momentum risks hitting the wall.
The technical details are not fully finalized yet. Will there be a mechanical ventilation system? What has to be included? I think it’s sufficient if you don’t plan to add anything else there. But I would definitely furnish it realistically first.
Upstairs, I completely agree with Yvonne and would also widen the hallways. I would also remove the recess at the bathroom and redesign that area. It’s all quite claustrophobic.
The rest is fine by me. But that doesn’t mean much because a dealbreaker always means failure for me.
11ant schrieb:
At some point, the project is mature enough that the client has to protect it from external influences and limit interference attempts. A forum community is a special kind of in-laws you’re not even related to by marriage. Perhaps this is acceptable for this design. But generally, that statement is nonsense. I’m not going to spend tens of thousands of dollars building a rocket that never flies to the moon just because I planned it for so long.
My main problem here is especially the recommendations made for others, which I don’t see in this floor plan at all.
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MachsSelbst10 Nov 2024 14:34At least remove the double door and keep the single door opening towards the kitchen units. The double door leaf facing the dining area is always in the way, and you’ll be constantly navigating around it... if you leave it as is, you’ll most likely replace that door leaf with a glass panel within six months at the latest...
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