ᐅ Door manufacturers/suppliers, can it be done better?

Created on: 13 Feb 2020 09:21
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tumaa
Hello everyone,

I am currently looking for an entrance door.

Material: Aluminum
Additional feature: optionally with Ekey
Price: should be reasonable per unit
Dimensions: 1455 x 2395 mm (57 x 94 inches)

Current offers:

1) Aluminum door with 5-point automatic locking, flush-mounted, sash overlapping, with side window panel and Ekey = €5400
Manufacturer (in-house production), the price also includes a construction site door
90 mm (3.5 inches) installation depth with thermally insulating core, U-value = 0.68 W/m²K, RC3 security class, 3 sealing levels plus magnetic threshold, 3 Dr. Hahn adjustable roller hinges, three-dimensionally adjustable.

2) Aluminum door with 3-point automatic locking, sash overlapping, with side window panel, without Ekey = €5000
Manufacturer Kompotherm













- Thermal insulation values from UD = 0.6 W/(m² x K)
- Depending on the system, 2, 3 or 4 sealing levels
- Profile systems from 70 to 121 mm (2.8 to 4.8 inches) installation depth
- Automatically lowering bottom seal


Question:
- I’m not an expert, but I think the first offer might be better?

- Can you recommend any other good suppliers?

Thanks a lot!!

Best regards
11ant13 Feb 2020 12:47
The prices sound to me like they are for single-sided overlapping door wings. I believe I’ve mentioned before that the frame profiles and the panels are two separate areas of expertise. Manufacturers usually specialize in only one of these, so a door typically involves two different manufacturers (not counting fittings and hardware). However, since customers prefer to have a single point of contact, complete doors are often offered as a turnkey product. Both manufacturers want to handle this business. Therefore, you can find complete doors not only from door manufacturers but also from panel manufacturers. There are, however, a few panel manufacturers who supply components only and do not deal directly with end customers.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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tumaa
13 Feb 2020 13:36
11ant schrieb:

The prices sound to me like they only cover one side of the sash overlay.

I was told otherwise on site... it actually covers both sides.

Can you recommend a supplier?
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Zaba12
13 Feb 2020 13:40
That would then be a custom size for the mentioned model. You won’t end up at 4,000 euros.
11ant13 Feb 2020 18:25
tumaa schrieb:

Can you suggest a supplier?

I’m no longer in the industry, and contact with the insulation companies wasn’t my area.
tumaa schrieb:

I was told otherwise on site… so it’s both sides.

These can still be reasonable prices, but we would have been significantly more expensive – and not alone in that – (or are the prices excluding installation?).
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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tumaa
13 Feb 2020 20:04
Update:

I just received a quote from the local carpenter:

Aluminum door with side panel (as one unit)
Aluminum door with side panel
Aliplast Star system, 90 mm (3.5 inches), color RAL 7016 anthracite gloss on both sides
Dimensions: 1500 x 2394 mm (59 x 94 inches)

Both sides with overlay panel, 90 mm (3.5 inches)

Main leaf:
TALLIN, brushed stainless steel application and Swarovski crystals on both sides
Side panel:
Triple-glazed Satinato glass

Equipment:
Automatic 3-point lock Winkhaus
3 hinges, 3D adjustable
Thermally broken aluminum threshold
Profile cylinder lock with 5 keys and security card
Handle inside stainless steel/brushed push bar KPK KCK 750

= €3,975

Outside
Ring rosette stainless steel

Including delivery and installation according to recognized technical standards!
Excluding electrical connection work!

A1 (optional)
Electric locking Winkhaus EAV3
Fingerprint scanner
= €750.00

A2 (optional)
Roller hinges
3-part
= €350.00

Flat travel fee
Arrival and departure
= €25.00

Total amount without optional items = €4,760 (gross)

What do you think of the offer?
Should I include both optional items?

Have a nice evening!

Regards

PS: The carpenter has very good reviews.
rick201813 Feb 2020 21:34
Is the Ekey fingerprint system secure? Which version is it?
Is it a motorized lock?
I would always prefer local suppliers.