Hello everyone,
My name is Peter, and we are now entering the final phase of planning our single-family home. We have received the following kitchen layout (see attached photos). The distance between the countertop and the kitchen island is currently planned to be 1.08 m (3 ft 6 in) to keep the dining area from feeling too small.
What do you think about this? Would you increase the distance to 1.2 m (4 ft)?
Best regards,
Peter
Kitchen Planning Checklist
Household and Ergonomics
Number of people in the household: 4
Of which children: 2
Heights of all main users in cm (for worktop height): 170 and 175
Worktop height: 88 to 90 cm (35 to 35.5 inches)


My name is Peter, and we are now entering the final phase of planning our single-family home. We have received the following kitchen layout (see attached photos). The distance between the countertop and the kitchen island is currently planned to be 1.08 m (3 ft 6 in) to keep the dining area from feeling too small.
What do you think about this? Would you increase the distance to 1.2 m (4 ft)?
Best regards,
Peter
Kitchen Planning Checklist
Household and Ergonomics
Number of people in the household: 4
Of which children: 2
Heights of all main users in cm (for worktop height): 170 and 175
Worktop height: 88 to 90 cm (35 to 35.5 inches)
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Myrna_Loy27 Sep 2021 12:13OK, then like this: When planning, the small distance doesn’t really make a difference. If there is only ever one person in the kitchen, you can plan for less than 1.20 meters (4 feet), but it is not ergonomic for working. If you have to expect more than one person in the kitchen, anything under 1.20 meters (4 feet) becomes uncomfortable.
You can also find this information in any kitchen planning guide, so I don’t quite understand what your question is aiming at?
You can also find this information in any kitchen planning guide, so I don’t quite understand what your question is aiming at?
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Seppl's Häusle27 Sep 2021 12:22In my opinion, a distance of 1.2 meters (4 feet) is the minimum for this layout and kitchen design.
I share the view of the previous commenters that the issue lies more in the shape and arrangement of the kitchen than in the distance between the two kitchen units.
Have you ever considered a U-shape with access along the window side?
I share the view of the previous commenters that the issue lies more in the shape and arrangement of the kitchen than in the distance between the two kitchen units.
Have you ever considered a U-shape with access along the window side?
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Ypsi aus NI27 Sep 2021 12:22In my opinion, you can easily stick to a distance of 1.10m (3 ft 7 in). It is often planned with 1.20m (4 ft), as that is also the depth of the island. However, you can adjust both the island depth and the distance between the rows to 1.10m (3 ft 7 in) without any problem.
If you go significantly beyond 1.20m (4 ft), as you suggested, it can become uncomfortable and less ergonomic over time because you have to take an extra step to move between the rows (e.g., the cooktop and oven).
Basically, I would recommend reconsidering the overall kitchen design and registering in the relevant forum for advice.
If you go significantly beyond 1.20m (4 ft), as you suggested, it can become uncomfortable and less ergonomic over time because you have to take an extra step to move between the rows (e.g., the cooktop and oven).
Basically, I would recommend reconsidering the overall kitchen design and registering in the relevant forum for advice.
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Myrna_Loy27 Sep 2021 12:37Ypsi aus NI schrieb:
In my opinion, you can comfortably keep a distance of 1.10m (3 ft 7 in). Often, 1.20m (3 ft 11 in) is planned because that matches the depth of the island. However, both the island depth and the aisle spacing can easily be adjusted to 1.10m (3 ft 7 in).
If you, as suggested, increase the distance considerably beyond 1.20m (3 ft 11 in), it can become inconvenient or less ergonomic since you have to take an extra step to turn between work zones (e.g., cooktop and oven).
That said, I would recommend reconsidering the overall kitchen layout and registering in the appropriate forum for further planning advice. That seems too risky to me, given how the oven is positioned. It would only be practical to load it from the side, and there’s very little clearance for movement. Placing a tray with roasting vegetables or a casserole dish into the hot oven would feel cramped in terms of space to move. I once had a kitchen with only 1 m (3 ft 3 in) between the countertop and a wall, and it was extremely inconvenient whenever anything was left open—whether it was the dishwasher, oven, or a drawer.
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Seppl's Häusle27 Sep 2021 12:59Aracnor schrieb:
but that resulted in even less continuous straight countertop spaceMaybe it feels that way, but in practice, a U-shaped kitchen gives you more countertop length.Aracnor schrieb:
U-shape with opening towards the window means very long distances from the front doorThat depends on how you look at it. I can enter through the front door, put the bags on the counter, and then turn the corner.I'm not saying that a U-shape with the opening facing the window is the perfect solution, but it is certainly an option with its own pros and cons.
You probably don’t have many options with just over 8m² (86 square feet), right?
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