ᐅ Distance Between Kitchen Cabinets and Kitchen Island

Created on: 27 Sep 2021 11:22
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Aracnor
Hello everyone,

My name is Peter, and we are now entering the final phase of planning our single-family home. We have received the following kitchen layout (see attached photos). The distance between the countertop and the kitchen island is currently planned to be 1.08 m (3 ft 6 in) to keep the dining area from feeling too small.

What do you think about this? Would you increase the distance to 1.2 m (4 ft)?

Best regards,
Peter

Kitchen Planning Checklist

Household and Ergonomics
Number of people in the household:
4
Of which children: 2
Heights of all main users in cm (for worktop height): 170 and 175
Worktop height: 88 to 90 cm (35 to 35.5 inches)

Floor plan of a living and work area with seating group, table, workspace and dimension lines.


Kitchen with white fitted kitchen, island, and dining table with red chairs, window view.


Floor plan of a kitchen layout: wall cabinets, tall cabinets, microwave, oven, sink in the middle.
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Myrna_Loy
27 Sep 2021 12:13
OK, then like this: When planning, the small distance doesn’t really make a difference. If there is only ever one person in the kitchen, you can plan for less than 1.20 meters (4 feet), but it is not ergonomic for working. If you have to expect more than one person in the kitchen, anything under 1.20 meters (4 feet) becomes uncomfortable.

You can also find this information in any kitchen planning guide, so I don’t quite understand what your question is aiming at?
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Seppl's Häusle
27 Sep 2021 12:22
In my opinion, a distance of 1.2 meters (4 feet) is the minimum for this layout and kitchen design.

I share the view of the previous commenters that the issue lies more in the shape and arrangement of the kitchen than in the distance between the two kitchen units.

Have you ever considered a U-shape with access along the window side?
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Ypsi aus NI
27 Sep 2021 12:22
In my opinion, you can easily stick to a distance of 1.10m (3 ft 7 in). It is often planned with 1.20m (4 ft), as that is also the depth of the island. However, you can adjust both the island depth and the distance between the rows to 1.10m (3 ft 7 in) without any problem.

If you go significantly beyond 1.20m (4 ft), as you suggested, it can become uncomfortable and less ergonomic over time because you have to take an extra step to move between the rows (e.g., the cooktop and oven).

Basically, I would recommend reconsidering the overall kitchen design and registering in the relevant forum for advice.
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Myrna_Loy
27 Sep 2021 12:37
Ypsi aus NI schrieb:

In my opinion, you can comfortably keep a distance of 1.10m (3 ft 7 in). Often, 1.20m (3 ft 11 in) is planned because that matches the depth of the island. However, both the island depth and the aisle spacing can easily be adjusted to 1.10m (3 ft 7 in).
If you, as suggested, increase the distance considerably beyond 1.20m (3 ft 11 in), it can become inconvenient or less ergonomic since you have to take an extra step to turn between work zones (e.g., cooktop and oven).
That said, I would recommend reconsidering the overall kitchen layout and registering in the appropriate forum for further planning advice.

That seems too risky to me, given how the oven is positioned. It would only be practical to load it from the side, and there’s very little clearance for movement. Placing a tray with roasting vegetables or a casserole dish into the hot oven would feel cramped in terms of space to move. I once had a kitchen with only 1 m (3 ft 3 in) between the countertop and a wall, and it was extremely inconvenient whenever anything was left open—whether it was the dishwasher, oven, or a drawer.
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Aracnor
27 Sep 2021 12:38
Attached is a photo of our original design. We initially planned a U-shape, but this resulted in even less continuous countertop space (see photo) and reduced storage. A U-shape open toward the window would have involved very long distances from the front door (see photo).

Technical floor plan of a kitchen unit with island, sink, and measurements in millimeters.


Modern dark kitchen with island, wooden counter, ovens, sink, and window with blinds.


Floor plan: Cooking / dining area with dining table, cloakroom, and WC/shower.
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Seppl's Häusle
27 Sep 2021 12:59
Aracnor schrieb:

but that resulted in even less continuous straight countertop space
Maybe it feels that way, but in practice, a U-shaped kitchen gives you more countertop length.
Aracnor schrieb:

U-shape with opening towards the window means very long distances from the front door
That depends on how you look at it. I can enter through the front door, put the bags on the counter, and then turn the corner.

I'm not saying that a U-shape with the opening facing the window is the perfect solution, but it is certainly an option with its own pros and cons.

You probably don’t have many options with just over 8m² (86 square feet), right?