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Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
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bubbel_599411 Feb 2015 18:28Slowly but surely, I’m starting to suspect that we have different appliance sizes in Switzerland. For a long time, our appliances were only 55cm (22 inches) wide, not 60cm (24 inches).
My dishwasher now has a front panel of 63cm (25 inches) below the control panel. If I combine a 40cm (16 inches) and a 20cm (8 inches) front panel with the supplied trim pieces, it should fit without any problems. Our kitchen from 1982 has a 10cm (4 inches) plinth, a 77cm (30 inches) cabinet body, and a 4cm (1.5 inches) countertop, which adds up to a total height of 91cm (36 inches).
Now we are working with an 8cm (3 inches), or at best a 10cm (4 inches), plinth (depending on the ceiling height during the rebuild), an 80cm (31.5 inches) cabinet body, and a 4cm (1.5 inches) countertop. So the working height is between 92 and 94cm (36 to 37 inches).
You can have a look at my photos, where I posted pictures of the existing kitchen. Sorry, but I’m too dumb or haven’t quite caught up with the digital age enough to figure out how to insert them into my posts.
My dishwasher now has a front panel of 63cm (25 inches) below the control panel. If I combine a 40cm (16 inches) and a 20cm (8 inches) front panel with the supplied trim pieces, it should fit without any problems. Our kitchen from 1982 has a 10cm (4 inches) plinth, a 77cm (30 inches) cabinet body, and a 4cm (1.5 inches) countertop, which adds up to a total height of 91cm (36 inches).
Now we are working with an 8cm (3 inches), or at best a 10cm (4 inches), plinth (depending on the ceiling height during the rebuild), an 80cm (31.5 inches) cabinet body, and a 4cm (1.5 inches) countertop. So the working height is between 92 and 94cm (36 to 37 inches).
You can have a look at my photos, where I posted pictures of the existing kitchen. Sorry, but I’m too dumb or haven’t quite caught up with the digital age enough to figure out how to insert them into my posts.
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IKEA-Experte11 Feb 2015 18:46I assumed the old kitchen cabinet was 720mm (28 inches) high. If you now have 770mm (30 inches), you will need 30mm (1.2 inches) more space with METOD. Measure with the door open to see if there is still 30mm (1.2 inches) of space between the bottom edge of the door front and the plinth under the sink. If so, it should work; if not, it won’t.
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bubbel_599411 Feb 2015 19:05Man, man, man, thanks a lot, Ikea expert 😊 Now I finally understand where the problem lies. The bottom edge of the front panel is touching the dishwasher housing when the dishwasher is fully open. Yeah, that’s going to be tight. My front panel is already almost flush. So, according to what you mentioned about the ERSÄTTARE, it should be possible to fix this. If I understand correctly, the front panel swings slightly underneath the dishwasher instead of directly against it.
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IKEA-Experte11 Feb 2015 19:23ERSÄTTARE in action:
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bubbel_599411 Feb 2015 19:41What kind of strange patent is this? Am I supposed to cut up my beautiful Bodbyn fronts so I can fold them like this? That just won’t work. I’d rather lower the dishwasher so the bottom edge of the front lines up correctly. That would solve the problem, and there would only be a small gap at the top by the control panel that needs filling. I’d prefer a 1–2 cm (0.4–0.8 inch) gap at the top rather than cutting up my nice fronts. Also, lowering the 20 cm (8 inch) section at the bottom doesn’t work visually because the pull-out drawer below is 40 cm (16 inch), with two 20 cm (8 inch) sections above.
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IKEA-Experte11 Feb 2015 19:51That would be the Stefan solution for a semi-integrated dishwasher.
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