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Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
J
Juliette W6 Feb 2015 19:47Thank you for the response, IKEA expert.
Unfortunately, I seem to have overlooked the missing folding hinge for the SX65M042EU, but I found this folding hinge in the accessories:
at
Siemens-Home.lu/en/product-list/SX65M042EU#/tab-section-Accessories
“Folding hinge for tall cabinet dimensions.”
Shouldn’t this then work?
To me, a professional kitchen installer is someone who does this as their main job, not a freight worker. I personally have no experience with kitchen installation, so I have professionals handle it. But I don’t want to provide them with a dishwasher that can’t be installed.
Unfortunately, I seem to have overlooked the missing folding hinge for the SX65M042EU, but I found this folding hinge in the accessories:
at
Siemens-Home.lu/en/product-list/SX65M042EU#/tab-section-Accessories
“Folding hinge for tall cabinet dimensions.”
Shouldn’t this then work?
To me, a professional kitchen installer is someone who does this as their main job, not a freight worker. I personally have no experience with kitchen installation, so I have professionals handle it. But I don’t want to provide them with a dishwasher that can’t be installed.
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IKEA-Experte6 Feb 2015 20:26If you hire IKEA for the installation, the work might be carried out by employees of companies like Rhenus, Hermes, or similar.
The technical drawings for the rather expensive folding hinge show that the total height of the front must be at least 805 mm (32 inches), but the METOD front is only 800 mm (31.5 inches) high overall. Whether the 5 mm (0.2 inches) difference actually matters, you would need to ask Siemens. In any case, using the available front sizes, you would then have a division of the front into 10 cm (4 inches), 60 cm (24 inches), and 10 cm (4 inches).
The technical drawings for the rather expensive folding hinge show that the total height of the front must be at least 805 mm (32 inches), but the METOD front is only 800 mm (31.5 inches) high overall. Whether the 5 mm (0.2 inches) difference actually matters, you would need to ask Siemens. In any case, using the available front sizes, you would then have a division of the front into 10 cm (4 inches), 60 cm (24 inches), and 10 cm (4 inches).
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Hesse.MTK7 Feb 2015 10:49Please leave feedback on which machine you ultimately decide to order.
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Hesse.MTK7 Feb 2015 20:11If you hire Ikea for the assembly, the installers could be employees of companies like Rhenus, Hermes, or similar.
According to the technical drawings for the rather expensive folding hinge, the total height of the front panel must be at least 805 mm (32 inches), but the METOD front panel is only 800 mm (31.5 inches) high. Whether the 5 mm (0.2 inches) difference really matters, you would need to ask Siemens. In any case, this would mean dividing the front into sections of 10 cm (4 inches), 60 cm (24 inches), and 10 cm (4 inches), based on the available front panel sizes.Ikea also offers 80 cm (31.5 inches) wide front panels in one piece.
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IKEA-Experte7 Feb 2015 21:24However, the additional folding hinge from Siemens only works with a split front.
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Hesse.MTK8 Feb 2015 09:06Could you please explain this to me?
My kitchen is scheduled to arrive on 27.02.2015. I ordered this front
For the dishwasher, I would like the one with the SMZ5003 special accessory for dishwashers — a folding hinge for tall cabinet dimensions.
Do I still need the "Vario hinge" even with the extra hinge?
My kitchen is scheduled to arrive on 27.02.2015. I ordered this front
For the dishwasher, I would like the one with the SMZ5003 special accessory for dishwashers — a folding hinge for tall cabinet dimensions.
Do I still need the "Vario hinge" even with the extra hinge?
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