ᐅ Dining table in a small kitchen

Created on: 16 Jul 2016 16:04
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Mizit
Hello, we are still in the planning phase, and I would like to benefit from the experiences of those who have already been through this.

A very important point in our considerations is the kitchen. Almost all the design ideas and floor plans we find tend to feature rather small kitchens, open-plan, sometimes under 10 sqm (100 sq ft), with the dining area in the living room naturally being sufficiently large.

Personally, I’m not a fan of the open kitchen concept. I want a closed kitchen. Also, I want the option to have a dining table in the kitchen that can seat four people. The dining corner doesn’t have to be very large. However, I want the possibility to have breakfast in the kitchen so that I don’t end up with a messy living room every morning after eating with two small children.

But a kitchen of 10 sqm (100 sq ft) probably won’t be enough for this.

If you have a dining table in your kitchen, how big is it, and how large is your entire kitchen? I’m also happy to be inspired by photos.

Or am I overestimating the importance of being able to eat in the kitchen?
f-pNo4 Aug 2016 12:03
By the way – I took another look at the floor plan you posted.
You might want to reconsider the suggestion made by another user about swapping the guest room and the kitchen.
How often do you have guests, and how often do you use the kitchen? Why should the guest room be larger than the kitchen?

Also, if the kitchen were moved to the guest room, the plumbing (water) lines might be shorter, since the utility room and guest toilet are right next to it. However, I don’t see where the main bathroom is located, which is on the upper floor.

Of course, we don’t know your plot of land. So there may be restrictions, for example regarding a dishwasher, which could explain why the kitchen was planned in its current location.
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Steffi33
5 Aug 2016 20:28
Just so you know... We had a newly built apartment for 13 years with a kitchen of about 2x2 meters (6.5x6.5 feet) (no window but with a large pass-through). It had an L-shaped kitchen, and under the pass-through (which made the kitchen feel "large" and bright) there was a small dining table where the four of us ate. We simply removed the sliding door, and it worked wonderfully. Hard to believe looking at it now...
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Mizit
8 Aug 2016 20:42
Steffi, what size was your table?
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Mizit
8 Aug 2016 20:46
The room is just under 2.80 m (9 feet 2 inches) wide. I sketched it out, and if I account for a kitchen depth of 60 cm (24 inches) and a 1 m (39 inches) walkway, there would be about 1 meter left for a table, chairs, and a passage to the living room. I don’t think that will be comfortable. Widening the space by 1 m (39 inches) would solve the problem, but it would also cost 27,000 euros. Hmm, once you start wanting to change these floor plans, things get expensive quickly.
RobsonMKK9 Aug 2016 17:20
Or, as has been said several times, maybe it simply isn’t the right floor plan.
f-pNo9 Aug 2016 17:47
Steffi33 schrieb:
Just saying... We lived for 13 years in a newly built apartment with a kitchen about 2x2 meters (6.5x6.5 feet) in size (no window but with a large pass-through). The kitchen was L-shaped and under the pass-through (which made the kitchen appear larger and brighter) there was a small dining table where the four of us would eat. We simply removed the sliding door and it worked perfectly... Unbelievable looking back today...

You might be right there.
Living in a rental apartment teaches you to live with compromises.
With your own house, however, you try to implement your wishes as far as the budget allows. As the saying goes: "You only build once."
Mizit schrieb:
The room is just under 2.80 meters (9 feet) wide. I sketched it out and if I calculate 60 cm (2 feet) for the depth of the kitchen, 1 meter (3.3 feet) for a walkway, that leaves about 1 meter (3.3 feet) for a table, chairs, and a passage to the living room. I don’t think that would be comfortable. Widening the space by 1 meter (3.3 feet) would solve the problem. But that costs 27,000 euros. Hmm, once you start wanting to change these floor plans, it quickly gets very expensive.

What are the dimensions of the guest room? The attached floor plan shows it as noticeably wider. Or is there a reason that definitely rules out swapping the rooms?