ᐅ Single-family house ~150 sqm for 5 people

Created on: 22 Jul 2019 09:29
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Sparfuchs77
Hello House Building Forum

I am new here, and we are currently planning our house with an architect. There are currently 4 of us, but we plan to have a 5th. Therefore, the house will include 3 children's bedrooms.

Here is the questionnaire:

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1250 sqm (13455 sq ft) on 25m x 50m (82 ft x 164 ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: not sure at the moment
Edge development: allowed but I want to avoid it
Number of parking spaces: double carport + 2 cars in front

Roof style: gable roof
Architectural style: classic single-family home
Orientation: see drawing

Owners’ Requirements
Open floor plan on the ground floor, 4 bedrooms on the upper floor, attic with enough space for storage and a hobby area

House Design
Who created the design:
- Architect

What do you like most? Why?
Ground floor: open kitchen and living room. Office accessible from the living room. Direct access to the terrace.
Upper floor: accommodate 3 children’s bedrooms, bedroom with walk-in closet area. The large dormer. The stairs to the attic, where the hobby room will be located.

What do you dislike? Why?
Basically only the staircase to the upper floor. I am a bit bothered by having to walk “around the corner” when coming up. I am looking for ideas to improve this. Or is this concern unfounded?

Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
Not determined yet.

Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings:
350,000 Euro

Preferred heating system:
Gas boiler, solar thermal, and underfloor heating

If you have to give up something, which details or extensions can you do without:
We have already eliminated everything we could possibly do without.

Why is the design the way it is? For example:
We went to the architect with our preferred design. He used our floor plan as a basis and created a floor plan that we like even better. Only the staircase layout is not yet 100% satisfactory for me.

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
As mentioned, the staircase to the upper floor is my biggest concern. I hope to get some ideas on how to improve it and maybe some feedback on the rest.



Ground floor plan: kitchen/dining/living area, hallway, office, utility room, bathroom, fireplace in the living room.


Upper floor plan with master bedroom, three children’s rooms, bathroom, landing, and storage room.


South is “up” on the drawings



If more information is needed, I am happy to provide it.

Best regards
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ypg
31 Jul 2019 14:00
Many people here have solar thermal systems, meaning solar collectors for hot water, mostly on the east side. We do too. (I’ve also seen some on the west side somewhere.) Sometimes there’s no other option, and hardly anyone would reorient their house just to meet this requirement. The savings nowadays are hardly significant.

However, if it’s photovoltaic panels, I would probably place them only on the south-facing roof, since the surplus energy can be sold.
kaho67431 Jul 2019 14:12
OT:
Scout schrieb:

Does the government print its own money? Or doesn’t it take this from everyone, including those who can only afford a rental apartment?
On what grounds should these tenants subsidize your solar energy?

In theory, the purpose of a subsidy is to create incentives for desired investments. In case you have missed the climate change debate: it is currently a very hot topic – literally.
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Scout
31 Jul 2019 14:47
Theoretically, the purpose of a subsidy is to create incentives for desired investments.

In reality, though, you’re not just moving your own money from one pocket to another—you’re also taking it from your fellow citizens who are less financially well-off.

If it matters to you, go ahead and install as many solar panels as you want. But making the general public pay for it and then officially celebrating yourself as a benefactor is unacceptable. That’s something only unscrupulous corporations do.

In case you missed the discussion about climate change: it’s currently a hot topic—in the most literal sense.

Sure, that’s the ultimate trump card… who would dare oppose it? Even worse might be pulling out the “right-wing” argument...

Imagine doing something for the climate, but at your own expense. Only then can you be proud. But please, don’t come in with anything else.
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Sparfuchs77
31 Jul 2019 15:00
Please take this discussion to a separate thread or via private message. Thank you.

This is off-topic here.
kaho67431 Jul 2019 15:05
Scout schrieb:

Then(!) you can be proud.
I don’t want to be PROUD. I want progress to happen. Anyone should be allowed to build something like that. Solar panels for balconies and tenants already exist now...

Sorry, cheapskate – I’m stopping here.
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Sparfuchs77
5 Aug 2019 20:03
Hi everyone,

We met with the architect today.

Here are the main results:
- The staircase on the ground floor will be mirrored.
- The staircases will then be aligned vertically.
- This allows for better use of the upper floor.
- The kitchen and utility room will each lose about 50cm (20 inches) in width.
- We want to add a door from the utility room to the garden.

The layout for the living room, kitchen, and dining area will remain as it is. I discussed this extensively with my wife, and I finally agreed on this. Only the kitchen and dining areas will be separated by a sliding door or something similar. How we design the upper floor will depend on where the stairs end up, so this is still undecided. We’re also not sure yet whether to keep the office entrance in the living area or move it to the hallway.

Regarding the dormers:

They are planned this way to allow for a covered terrace with an overhanging roof, while also accommodating the small extension. From what I’ve seen, many houses are built with dormers here, so it doesn’t seem unusual. At the moment, I can’t really imagine how it would work without dormers.

If the exterior wall is built up instead of integrating the dormers into the roof, it conflicts with the extension.