ᐅ Is a water softener system advisable or not?

Created on: 11 Feb 2019 18:12
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Alexius
I already asked some questions about our gas supplier in another thread—thanks again for the feedback.

Now we are facing the decision: "Water softener system—yes or no?"

Our house is about 10 years old (just bought it). Unfortunately, we have very hard water here (around 23). You can already see it on the faucets (where the water comes out), and of course, this isn’t ideal for cleaning or for the pipes either.

We were advised to install a water softener system (we had the idea before, too). However, the local utility company advises against it, and I have also read that these systems can be prone to bacterial growth if they are not properly maintained. Also, chemicals are said to be added to the water (I initially thought it worked through a special salt). Maintenance and service costs also seem quite high, on top of the initial purchase price.

How have you dealt with this? What do you think are the advantages and disadvantages?

At the moment, I am leaning toward not installing one.
face2610 Oct 2021 21:35
Dany250 schrieb:

Do you have any experience with what would happen if you didn’t dry it?

May I ask what tile color you have in your shower?

EDIT:
Another example with a faucet. You use the faucet, and water drips from your hands onto the fixture, but you don’t clean it right away. What would it look like after 2-3 days?

It largely depends on user behavior and personal perception. We have children. If you don’t wipe something like the mentioned cloth for three days, the chrome faucet looks quite bad. But that’s not only due to residual limescale or other substances in the water, but also soap and toothpaste residue. However, as mentioned before, if you rinse it with water and wipe it with a microfiber cloth, it’s clean. No soaking, scrubbing, or anything else is necessary.

The cleaning intervals are the same, just faster and easier. Or if you make it a habit to dry immediately after showering, you hardly need to use any cleaning products at all from a visual standpoint.
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Snowy36
10 Oct 2021 21:52
I have dark brown tiles in the shower…. In my rental apartment, I had light-colored tiles and no descaling, which looked really bad, especially the grout lines….

And for example, if you have a hose on the showerhead, I don’t wipe it down – in the apartment, it ended up looking really bad….

You do have to clean, but everything comes off easily without harsh, nasty chemicals.
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Dany250
11 Oct 2021 14:20
Müllerin schrieb:

We have those white spots too. But they come off easily with citric acid or also ceramic cooktop cleaner.

Ceramic cooktop cleaner sounds like the (only) solution that was eventually found in that other forum as well (the thread ran for about 6 years and still). Although people there described it as extremely time-consuming, with some glass permanently damaged beyond repair and tiles that couldn’t be cleaned anymore. Fortunately, this sounds very positive to me! May I ask which region you live in and what your water hardness is?

Thanks in advance to everyone else for your answers!
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Müllerin
11 Oct 2021 14:31
Dany250 schrieb:

Ceramic cooktop cleaner sounds like the (only) solution that was eventually found in the other forum as well (the thread lasted, I think, over 6 years and still going). Although people there described it as very time-consuming, sometimes damaging the glass permanently, and even tiles that couldn’t be fully cleaned anymore.
Luckily, everything here sounds very positive to me! May I ask which region you live in and what your water hardness is?

Hmm, I can’t find anything on the glass... but there is residue on the shower tiles, that’s true.
We normally have 16° (dH) here and soften it to 5° (dH).
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Snowy36
11 Oct 2021 19:53
We have 16 and soften it to 7, so not quite as strong.
Araknis12 Oct 2021 17:07
Is there a general estimate of how much you can reduce building height or levels with current technology, assuming a starting point of 23–24 floors as in our case?