ᐅ Danwood Family – Is the Project Feasible?

SeppWeller schrieb:

All basic information comes from the neighbor, who built with a different manufacturer. It could well be that there is indeed a missing zero at the house connection. However, my main concern is to use your experience to determine whether the budget is basically sufficient or if I have misunderstood or overlooked something important.

That looks quite plausible. The architect might be cheaper, and the foundation slab as a self-managed task as well. Doesn’t Danwood handle the structural engineering for the slab? Danwood also does the plastering, right?

As I said, for electricity, telephone, and water I would estimate $8,000–12,000. You tend to get overcharged there.

HuppelHuppel schrieb:

That seems quite plausible.

That’s hardly plausible, as Danwood is a prefab house manufacturer that includes exterior plaster and structural costs in their pricing, and project management is also included.

SeppWeller schrieb:

Family house with 110 m2 (1,184 sq ft) and a list price of 245k should be the basis.

Honestly? I’m not familiar with the current scope of work. As far as I know, I’m not sure if you’re accounting for €0 on plumbing and €0 on tiling work.
If I quickly check the Danwood Family page, I can see that interior doors are not included in the house, but the plaster definitely is.
Therefore, I don’t understand your list at all.

SeppWeller schrieb:

The basic data all come from the neighbor, who built with a different manufacturer.

The manufacturer doesn’t affect connection costs. You contact the local water and electricity suppliers and get the exact costs down to the cent.

SeppWeller schrieb:

What I’m really trying to do is, based on your experience, determine whether the budget is basically sufficient or if I’ve misinterpreted or forgotten anything important.

Well, you should definitely revise your figures. Some things are misunderstood. There’s a big difference between paying €800 or €8,000 for connections.
Kitchen and photovoltaics are two different things and each has its own costs.
Temporary construction power and water are missing.
We also don’t know if you plan to install the flooring yourself. Hiring a professional varies regionally in cost.
We have no information about the plot (difficult ground conditions, slope). Many costs depend heavily on the land.

And as already mentioned: there is a dedicated Danwood thread here where you should ask your questions.

SeppWeller schrieb:

I am new here, a complete construction novice, and hope for your help. We (45 and 41) are currently considering whether to start a house building project or not. We could get a good building plot relatively cheaply, [...] The requirements are modest: a simple Danwood Family house with 110 m² (1,184 sq ft) and a price list of 245k should be the basis.

Complete construction novices falling for a Danwood is almost a causal connection. This is a provider whose marketing examples successfully create the impression that the non-inclusive items in the price quotes are just a hop away, making building affordable after all. Better take a look at models from providers who are less economy-oriented—that puts things into perspective. Viebrockhaus, for example, offers a wide range of catalogue models with regionally differentiated price lists. 245k divided by 3k results in just over 80 m² (860 sq ft)—quite sufficient for two people. The final ready-to-move-in price will only be noticeably lower if your expectations are extremely modest (shower with hand shower and low-entry bath, single garage doors as ribbed up-and-over doors operated manually, patio French doors, 30x30 cm (12x12 inch) floor tiles, ...).

Where do complete construction novices get the competence to judge a "good building plot"?

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Nowadays, "good" means there is one, and it is affordable. But I already see that this forum, like many online forums, is simply great. There is constructive criticism, really detailed suggestions for improvement, and thus perfect added value. Maybe I will still find a moderator who deletes this thread or responds to a request sent to the contact email address in the imprint. Thank you very much.

Do I hear sarcasm? If you’re not getting the answers you expect, that should make you think, or you need to ask different questions.

SeppWeller schrieb:

Nowadays, "good" means there is one available and it is affordable.

So the plot "bought as seen" hopefully appears usable. But there is no geotechnical survey for the building site; worst case, it might only be affordable because of swampy ground, rock, or a slope (?).

SeppWeller schrieb:

But I can already see that this forum, like many online forums, is simply great: it offers constructive criticism, truly detailed advice for improvements, and therefore perfect added value. [...] Many thanks.

You're welcome, although I wouldn’t praise it quite so enthusiastically.

SeppWeller schrieb:

Maybe I will still find a moderator who deletes this thread, or who responds to a request sent to the email address listed in the imprint.

A thread opener is not the owner of the thread. Deleting the efforts of those responding would be rude both to them and to other readers. Asking questions for free and receiving public answers—that’s the deal on the internet.

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