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We are planning to design the path to the house and the terrace this year.
At the front, regular paving stones, and on the terrace, slabs sized 30cm x 30cm (12 inches x 12 inches).
The walkway and driveway cover about 60 square meters (645 square feet). The terrace is about 40 square meters (430 square feet).
What are realistic costs to expect without including the slabs themselves (in Hesse)? There is already coarse gravel laid everywhere...
Online, I found prices including the sub-base of around 27 EUR per square meter (about 2.5 USD per square foot). The first quote I received was nearly 50 EUR per square meter (around 4.6 USD per square foot) without the stones!!
We are planning to design the path to the house and the terrace this year.
At the front, regular paving stones, and on the terrace, slabs sized 30cm x 30cm (12 inches x 12 inches).
The walkway and driveway cover about 60 square meters (645 square feet). The terrace is about 40 square meters (430 square feet).
What are realistic costs to expect without including the slabs themselves (in Hesse)? There is already coarse gravel laid everywhere...
Online, I found prices including the sub-base of around 27 EUR per square meter (about 2.5 USD per square foot). The first quote I received was nearly 50 EUR per square meter (around 4.6 USD per square foot) without the stones!!
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giftmischer18 Apr 2011 11:03I pay 20€/m² (approximately $20/m²) for the foundation (materials and labor), and an additional 20€/m (approximately $20/yd) for laying the stones.
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giftmischer20 Apr 2011 11:13Silence7 schrieb:
Substructure also means excavation and gravel base, or because we already have that laid...Correct. Provided that the "already laid" refers to properly prepared (leveled, compacted) ground.
If the "substructure," which strictly speaking belongs to the superstructure since the substructure lies beneath the subgrade level, is already in place and compacted, you can calculate 3-5 cm (1-2 inches) of bedding material. For driveways, concrete is recommended as it lasts a very long time! For terraces or garden paths, gravel or crushed stone is usually sufficient.
Do you want to do it yourself or hire someone?
For laying slabs or concrete pavers, you can estimate about €15 per square meter (without taxes, labor costs, etc.) just for the installation. Additional costs mentioned earlier will apply. For example, 60 m² × €15 = €900 plus VAT, sales tax, machinery, and materials. If a company is doing the work, it is important to agree on a fixed price upfront! Pressuring the contractor by hourly rates usually doesn’t help.
Regarding materials: a tip to save costs is to buy the slabs or paving stones directly from the manufacturer, which is often cheaper than purchasing through the contractor, as they usually add a percentage margin. Also, compare prices for the bedding materials (DO NOT buy from hardware stores!).
It’s best to do it yourself; it’s not difficult, and with a bit of skill, almost anyone can manage it!
Do you want to do it yourself or hire someone?
For laying slabs or concrete pavers, you can estimate about €15 per square meter (without taxes, labor costs, etc.) just for the installation. Additional costs mentioned earlier will apply. For example, 60 m² × €15 = €900 plus VAT, sales tax, machinery, and materials. If a company is doing the work, it is important to agree on a fixed price upfront! Pressuring the contractor by hourly rates usually doesn’t help.
Regarding materials: a tip to save costs is to buy the slabs or paving stones directly from the manufacturer, which is often cheaper than purchasing through the contractor, as they usually add a percentage margin. Also, compare prices for the bedding materials (DO NOT buy from hardware stores!).
It’s best to do it yourself; it’s not difficult, and with a bit of skill, almost anyone can manage it!
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Pflasterprofi9 Jan 2012 00:44Marc86 schrieb:
If the "substructure," which strictly speaking belongs to the superstructure since the substructure lies below the base layer, is already in place and compacted, you calculate 3–5cm (1–2 inches) of bedding.You do realize that the company doing the work there must also provide a warranty for the substructure...
Marc86 schrieb:
(concrete is recommended for the driveway, it lasts forever! for terraces/garden paths, gravel usually suffices!!)Completely wrong.
1: costs more
2: does not last forever
Marc86 schrieb:
Are you planning to do it yourself or have it done?
For slabs/concrete pavers, without taxes/labor costs etc., you can estimate about €15/m² (approx. $15/sq ft) just for the installation. Then the other mentioned costs apply as well.
60*15=900€ plus VAT, sales tax, machinery & materials. Important: if a company does it, agree on a fixed price upfront! Trying to reduce hourly rates doesn't help at all.That stands as is, although depending on the material, whether high quality or not, prices may vary.
Marc86 schrieb:
Material tip: to save costs, buying slabs/pavers directly from the manufacturer is often cheaper than getting them from the contractor, as the latter adds a markup, also the bedding material (NOT from the hardware store!!!). Compare prices!!Completely wrong.
Manufacturers usually cooperate with building material suppliers. Therefore, you can only buy pavers through building material suppliers.
Private customers get different prices than companies, and as a private person you often end up paying more. Companies get better prices and can offer lower rates.
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