ᐅ Estimate for Exterior Landscaping – Is a Price of €45,000 Realistic?
Created on: 9 Aug 2023 22:11
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Possmann
Hello everyone,
We recently paved the driveway and the parking spaces in front of the house. The soil mound, which was left from the excavation on the property, was spread out roughly to its near-final levels. The earthworker / landscaper did a very neat job – we are very satisfied.
We now have a comprehensive offer, which would mean our entire outdoor area could be completed in 4 weeks (which is very appealing):
- Creating and edging flower beds in the front garden
- Path with stone slabs and gravel along the front and side of the house up to the terrace, approximately 20 meters x 1.20 meters (65.6 feet x 3.9 feet)
- Complete construction of the terrace with patio slabs, the terrace is about 45 m² (484 ft²)
- Retaining wall to hold back soil at the edge of the property, about 30 meters (98 feet) long and 1.60 meters (5.25 feet) high (this is the biggest cost factor) – not a natural stone wall, but concrete blocks, looked great in the photo
- Well including all permits (building permit / planning permission), electrical work, and pump from the company Hunter
- Automatic underground garden irrigation system (runs once a day and waters the garden using water from the well)
- Roll-out turf, approximately 300 m² (3,229 ft²)
- Excavation / edging for the basement apartment also with a concrete block retaining wall
- Installation of boundary wire for robotic lawnmower
- Paving of the basement terrace, with filling and leveling beforehand (for a separate unit, likely about 25 m² (269 ft²))
All materials are included. I understand it’s hard to judge without knowing the exact details, but we feel it’s a lot of money and also a lot of work.
Thank you very much.
We recently paved the driveway and the parking spaces in front of the house. The soil mound, which was left from the excavation on the property, was spread out roughly to its near-final levels. The earthworker / landscaper did a very neat job – we are very satisfied.
We now have a comprehensive offer, which would mean our entire outdoor area could be completed in 4 weeks (which is very appealing):
- Creating and edging flower beds in the front garden
- Path with stone slabs and gravel along the front and side of the house up to the terrace, approximately 20 meters x 1.20 meters (65.6 feet x 3.9 feet)
- Complete construction of the terrace with patio slabs, the terrace is about 45 m² (484 ft²)
- Retaining wall to hold back soil at the edge of the property, about 30 meters (98 feet) long and 1.60 meters (5.25 feet) high (this is the biggest cost factor) – not a natural stone wall, but concrete blocks, looked great in the photo
- Well including all permits (building permit / planning permission), electrical work, and pump from the company Hunter
- Automatic underground garden irrigation system (runs once a day and waters the garden using water from the well)
- Roll-out turf, approximately 300 m² (3,229 ft²)
- Excavation / edging for the basement apartment also with a concrete block retaining wall
- Installation of boundary wire for robotic lawnmower
- Paving of the basement terrace, with filling and leveling beforehand (for a separate unit, likely about 25 m² (269 ft²))
All materials are included. I understand it’s hard to judge without knowing the exact details, but we feel it’s a lot of money and also a lot of work.
Thank you very much.
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HeimatBauer10 Aug 2023 15:57I find the offer quite reasonable.
In my opinion, instant turf (sod) is a complete waste of money, and you have to be very careful about the quality you get. Based on experience, the seed used in instant turf is often leftover stock. If I were to design my garden again, regardless of price, I would only use proper seed.
Regarding the 5,000-liter (1,320-gallon) rainwater tank, the question is more about which roof area supplies it and how much area it will actually irrigate. Considering the existing well, I would stick with the 5,000 liters. Can the pumps in both the tank and the well really handle the irrigation? Many people have been disappointed, but if the landscaping contractor includes it as part of the package, it seems they know what they’re doing.
In my opinion, instant turf (sod) is a complete waste of money, and you have to be very careful about the quality you get. Based on experience, the seed used in instant turf is often leftover stock. If I were to design my garden again, regardless of price, I would only use proper seed.
Regarding the 5,000-liter (1,320-gallon) rainwater tank, the question is more about which roof area supplies it and how much area it will actually irrigate. Considering the existing well, I would stick with the 5,000 liters. Can the pumps in both the tank and the well really handle the irrigation? Many people have been disappointed, but if the landscaping contractor includes it as part of the package, it seems they know what they’re doing.
sysrun80 schrieb:
If the price is okay, I would definitely go for it. 5000 liters (1300 gallons) run out quickly if it doesn’t rain for a few weeks.He mentioned 2-3k (2000-3000) in passing as his estimate for that. As I said, it’s all a mixed price, so it’s hard to break down the individual items.
Allthewayup schrieb:
You should be able to find what you’re looking for using the search function here.Unfortunately, I didn’t find anything using the search. :/
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HeimatBauer10 Aug 2023 16:24As a rough estimate, when the garden really needs water, I use about 1,000 liters (264 gallons) per day. If watering has been neglected and/or I’m away afterward, it can be up to 2,000 liters (528 gallons), but then everything is dripping. My cistern holds 10,000 liters (2,641 gallons), and thanks to the large roof area, a heavy summer rain fills it with about 5,000 liters (1,320 gallons). So, for me, the 10,000-liter cistern lasts two weeks, provided there is a strong rain at some point.
With a 260m² (2,800 sq ft) garden, the cistern has never run empty in normal use since we moved in.
Of course, more capacity is always better—but the utilization of an additional 5,000 liters is naturally lower because the peaks it covers occur less frequently. For me, the deciding factor was that a 6,000-liter cistern would have cost about the same as the 10,000-liter one, but by choosing 10,000 liters, I received significantly higher funding from the local authority. Therefore, the 10,000-liter cistern was cheaper for me than the 6,000-liter option and paid off much faster.
Keep in mind that a dry cistern pump may need to be refilled with water before it can be used. It’s better to ask your landscaper about ideas for risers, whether to access the pump or to remove sediment every few years.
With a 260m² (2,800 sq ft) garden, the cistern has never run empty in normal use since we moved in.
Of course, more capacity is always better—but the utilization of an additional 5,000 liters is naturally lower because the peaks it covers occur less frequently. For me, the deciding factor was that a 6,000-liter cistern would have cost about the same as the 10,000-liter one, but by choosing 10,000 liters, I received significantly higher funding from the local authority. Therefore, the 10,000-liter cistern was cheaper for me than the 6,000-liter option and paid off much faster.
Keep in mind that a dry cistern pump may need to be refilled with water before it can be used. It’s better to ask your landscaper about ideas for risers, whether to access the pump or to remove sediment every few years.
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Allthewayup10 Aug 2023 18:22Take a look at the thread „Baukosten gehen aktuell durch die Decke“, post no. 10,479.
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WilderSueden10 Aug 2023 18:41Possmann schrieb:
Does it make sense to have a well on a roughly 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft) plot of land? We already have a 5000-liter (1,320-gallon) cistern, but I’m not sure how the two would work together (well, obviously the well would be used when the cistern is empty). It depends less on the size and more on how you design and manage the garden. If I read correctly that you have turf and an irrigation system, you're probably using around 20 liters per square meter (0.65 gallons per square foot) per week.
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motorradsilke10 Aug 2023 22:31Possmann schrieb:
Does a well make sense on a plot of about 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft)? We already have a 5000l (1,320 gal) cistern, but I’m not clear on how the two work together (so, well used when the cistern is empty, that part is clear).
A well definitely makes sense for a property of that size. When it is dry and warm, your cistern will be empty within 1 to 2 days, and if you are very economical, it might last up to 5 days. This year, we already had several weeks in a row without rain. At that point, the cistern runs dry.
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