ᐅ Estimate for Exterior Landscaping – Is a Price of €45,000 Realistic?

Created on: 9 Aug 2023 22:11
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Possmann
Hello everyone,

We recently paved the driveway and the parking spaces in front of the house. The soil mound, which was left from the excavation on the property, was spread out roughly to its near-final levels. The earthworker / landscaper did a very neat job – we are very satisfied.

We now have a comprehensive offer, which would mean our entire outdoor area could be completed in 4 weeks (which is very appealing):

- Creating and edging flower beds in the front garden
- Path with stone slabs and gravel along the front and side of the house up to the terrace, approximately 20 meters x 1.20 meters (65.6 feet x 3.9 feet)
- Complete construction of the terrace with patio slabs, the terrace is about 45 m² (484 ft²)
- Retaining wall to hold back soil at the edge of the property, about 30 meters (98 feet) long and 1.60 meters (5.25 feet) high (this is the biggest cost factor) – not a natural stone wall, but concrete blocks, looked great in the photo
- Well including all permits (building permit / planning permission), electrical work, and pump from the company Hunter
- Automatic underground garden irrigation system (runs once a day and waters the garden using water from the well)
- Roll-out turf, approximately 300 m² (3,229 ft²)
- Excavation / edging for the basement apartment also with a concrete block retaining wall
- Installation of boundary wire for robotic lawnmower
- Paving of the basement terrace, with filling and leveling beforehand (for a separate unit, likely about 25 m² (269 ft²))

All materials are included. I understand it’s hard to judge without knowing the exact details, but we feel it’s a lot of money and also a lot of work.

Thank you very much.
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Possmann
9 Aug 2023 23:46
Southern Hesse.

Could you possibly provide a rough price estimate for individual items, so that it is easier to understand what is considered affordable?
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xMisterDx
9 Aug 2023 23:59
That won't help you. If you remove items that he offers "too cheaply," he won't just take them out one-to-one.
And generally, the rule is, "the larger the scope, the better the price."

If you take me "off the market" for half a year, you'll get a better price per unit than if I just stop by for service for a day.
schubert7910 Aug 2023 06:47
Act quickly, especially if the work completed so far meets your expectations.
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Allthewayup
10 Aug 2023 07:06
Possmann schrieb:

Could you possibly provide a rough price range for individual items, so it’s easier to understand what is considered affordable?

You should be able to find information using the search function here. Not too long ago, I also shared the breakdown of prices from my landscaping contractor. Maybe I missed it, but if the 45,000 includes materials, I also consider that price reasonable. Still, I would definitely recommend getting multiple quotes. I created a simple Excel sheet to compare prices from three different suppliers. Some priced based on square meters (sqm), others by tons. When you convert those units and calculate roughly how much material you need, you get a better sense of whether prices are reasonable or inflated. This method helped me identify extreme outliers, which I then discussed and adjusted with the landscaping contractor. Maybe there was a misunderstanding or, for example, unnecessary exposed concrete was quoted. That allowed me to “optimize” by about 2,500 without putting pressure on the contractor or haggling. In any case, at this price level, it’s worth asking for a discount for prompt payment. I noticed many are willing to negotiate on that, which is nothing wrong.
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Possmann
10 Aug 2023 10:16
Hello everyone,

I checked again, and the terrace slabs are not included; we are supposed to buy those ourselves since it's usually best to choose them personally. That makes sense for now.

However, a garden fence (welded wire fence, about 15 meters (50 feet)) is included, which I forgot to mention earlier.

So it should approximately fit. I will create an Excel sheet for this.

Does it make sense to have a well on a roughly 1000 sqm (11,000 sq ft) plot? We already have a 5000-liter (1300-gallon) cistern, but I’m not sure how the two would work together (I do understand that the well would be used once the cistern is empty).
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sysrun80
10 Aug 2023 15:26
Possmann schrieb:

Does it make sense to have a well on a plot of about 1000 square meters (about 0.25 acres)? We already have a 5000-liter (1300-gallon) rainwater tank, but I’m not clear on how the two work together (so, obviously, the well would be used when the tank is empty).

If the cost is reasonable, I would definitely go for it. Five thousand liters (1300 gallons) can run out quickly if there is no rain for a few weeks.