Hello, dear forum members,
I have purchased my first own apartment, which is currently under construction, so I have little experience and would be very grateful for your help.
A basic package has been agreed upon with the developer. Custom requests come with additional costs. The extra charges now quoted in the offers seem extremely overpriced to me.
It mainly concerns the wall tiles. The basic format is 30x60cm (12x24 inches). According to the construction description, 75€/m² (7.0 USD/ft²) gross has already been calculated for the tiles themselves, including installation, and is included in the purchase price. I want different tiles.
On top of all prices, there are additional surcharges for custom requests: installation of porcelain stoneware tiles on the wall 10€/m² (0.93 USD/ft²) gross, as well as installation of rectified (square-edged) tiles for 12€/m² (1.12 USD/ft²).
Added together, the extra gross prices on top of the basic are
- for format 60x120cm (24x48 inches) +70€ (about 76 USD),
- for format 120x120cm (48x48 inches) +135€ (around 147 USD),
- for format 20x120cm (8x48 inches) +123€ (about 134 USD) (Italgraniti LUX Listello Mix Pietra, in 5 different surface patterns but same size, installed in a random pattern).
For inserting a thin decorative metal border 0.3x120cm (not included in the basic package) between the 20x120cm tiles, 82€/linear meter (25 USD/linear foot) gross is charged.
Also, for the tiles themselves, the tiler charges significantly more than I could get at the same building materials supplier myself.
It is similar with other items from my developer. For example, if I want a different shower or faucet, the plumbing installer demands an additional charge roughly equal to the retail price of the item. Identical items can be found at hardware stores or online retailers for 50-60% less. However, I am not allowed to buy there, as the responsible specialist company will not install items they did not supply "due to warranty reasons."
Has anyone had similar experiences?
What are “normal” prices for rectified porcelain stoneware wall tiles in formats 20x120cm (8x48 inches), 60x120cm (24x48 inches), 120x120cm (48x48 inches), 120x240cm (48x96 inches)?
If the specialist company responsible for certain installations (e.g., shower) is willing to install, am I required to buy from that company only? Since they source themselves through suppliers, is it allowed for the company to refuse installation of identical items that I procured myself?
Best regards from Bavaria!
alex81k
I have purchased my first own apartment, which is currently under construction, so I have little experience and would be very grateful for your help.
A basic package has been agreed upon with the developer. Custom requests come with additional costs. The extra charges now quoted in the offers seem extremely overpriced to me.
It mainly concerns the wall tiles. The basic format is 30x60cm (12x24 inches). According to the construction description, 75€/m² (7.0 USD/ft²) gross has already been calculated for the tiles themselves, including installation, and is included in the purchase price. I want different tiles.
On top of all prices, there are additional surcharges for custom requests: installation of porcelain stoneware tiles on the wall 10€/m² (0.93 USD/ft²) gross, as well as installation of rectified (square-edged) tiles for 12€/m² (1.12 USD/ft²).
Added together, the extra gross prices on top of the basic are
- for format 60x120cm (24x48 inches) +70€ (about 76 USD),
- for format 120x120cm (48x48 inches) +135€ (around 147 USD),
- for format 20x120cm (8x48 inches) +123€ (about 134 USD) (Italgraniti LUX Listello Mix Pietra, in 5 different surface patterns but same size, installed in a random pattern).
For inserting a thin decorative metal border 0.3x120cm (not included in the basic package) between the 20x120cm tiles, 82€/linear meter (25 USD/linear foot) gross is charged.
Also, for the tiles themselves, the tiler charges significantly more than I could get at the same building materials supplier myself.
It is similar with other items from my developer. For example, if I want a different shower or faucet, the plumbing installer demands an additional charge roughly equal to the retail price of the item. Identical items can be found at hardware stores or online retailers for 50-60% less. However, I am not allowed to buy there, as the responsible specialist company will not install items they did not supply "due to warranty reasons."
Has anyone had similar experiences?
What are “normal” prices for rectified porcelain stoneware wall tiles in formats 20x120cm (8x48 inches), 60x120cm (24x48 inches), 120x120cm (48x48 inches), 120x240cm (48x96 inches)?
If the specialist company responsible for certain installations (e.g., shower) is willing to install, am I required to buy from that company only? Since they source themselves through suppliers, is it allowed for the company to refuse installation of identical items that I procured myself?
Best regards from Bavaria!
alex81k
alex81k schrieb:
Maybe you still rememberIn the forum, we use informal "you" unless it concerns the client and contractor relationship 😉alex81k schrieb:
What surprises me even more is the price for the 20x120 tiles. I don’t know what’s so special about these tiles,Long and narrow tiles can break easily.RE-1407 schrieb:
When a homeowner faces two price increases beyond 30,000 (no unit specified) during the construction phase, they are honestly no longer willing to be "fooled" any further.But not for the tile upgrades, right?Myrna_Loy schrieb:
Just try installing tiles of this size on a wall yourself, then you understand where the extra cost comes from.Great comment! Hats off! In theory, any bureaucrat or armchair expert can fail to understand the numbers 😉 They should try experiencing firsthand the extra effort required to install 29 x 129 or 120 x 120 tiles, especially horizontally.
Schimi17915 Oct 2021 05:21Myrna_Loy schrieb:
Just try tiling the wall yourself with tiles of this size, and you’ll understand where the extra cost comes from.For me, tiling with any size would be an (unsolvable) challenge. At least if I want it to look decent.ypg schrieb:
In the forum, we use informal address unless it concerns the client or contractor 😉
Long and narrow can break easily.
But not for the tile upgrades, right?
Great post! Hats off!
In theory, any official or desk worker might not understand the numbers 😉 They should experience for themselves how much extra effort it takes to install 29 x 129 or 120 x 120 tiles, especially horizontally. No, that wasn’t for tile upgrades, but general price adjustments since the contract was signed in 2018.
There was one adjustment in 2019 and another in 2020.
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