Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 537 sqm (5780 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio
Building area, building line and boundary 14.42/15.00 × 13.52/17.56 meters (47.3/49.2 × 44.4/57.6 feet)
Edge development Garages are allowed within the side setback areas
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 2
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern, simple
Orientation south
Maximum height/limits ridge height 10.5 m (34.4 ft)
Clients’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type 2 full floors, classic gable roof
Floors 2
Number of occupants 2 adults over 40 + 2 children (3 and 16), separate apartment: 1 person under 70
Ground floor room requirements: living/dining + L-shaped kitchen, guest toilet, utility/technical room
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, 2 offices, 2 bathrooms, laundry room
Separate apartment 3 rooms: living/dining, kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, small guest room
Office: 2 home offices
Overnight guests per year: separate apartment 10 times
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design
Open kitchen with island: semi-open, not directly visible from living area
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/soundproof wall no
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport at least 1, preferably 2
Utility garden, greenhouse desired
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine separate terraces; both want sunlight
House Design
Designer: Architect
What is particularly liked? The bright kitchen in the separate apartment
What is disliked? Long narrow hallway, living/dining area in the main residence
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: 650
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 700
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can be foregone: the second garage
Hello everyone,
After reading a lot here and planning for three months now, I’m trying to get some help.
The plot is complicated, maybe a bit narrow to also fit a separate apartment on the ground floor.
We are unsure how to “split” the plot.
Who should get the west or east side?
Which street should the house face?
The 5.5 m (18 ft) setback area on the north side suggests itself as the driveway/parking area. Also, no one wants a north-facing garden.
We all want sunlight somehow, but with further construction progress on other houses (marked in red) and the low sun angle, hardly any sun reaches the southern area.
The separate apartment really only needs a sunny terrace (because mowing the lawn will get harder with age).
I’ve simply added the architect’s two drafts here.
Plot size 537 sqm (5780 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio
Building area, building line and boundary 14.42/15.00 × 13.52/17.56 meters (47.3/49.2 × 44.4/57.6 feet)
Edge development Garages are allowed within the side setback areas
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 2
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern, simple
Orientation south
Maximum height/limits ridge height 10.5 m (34.4 ft)
Clients’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type 2 full floors, classic gable roof
Floors 2
Number of occupants 2 adults over 40 + 2 children (3 and 16), separate apartment: 1 person under 70
Ground floor room requirements: living/dining + L-shaped kitchen, guest toilet, utility/technical room
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, 2 offices, 2 bathrooms, laundry room
Separate apartment 3 rooms: living/dining, kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, small guest room
Office: 2 home offices
Overnight guests per year: separate apartment 10 times
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design
Open kitchen with island: semi-open, not directly visible from living area
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/soundproof wall no
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport at least 1, preferably 2
Utility garden, greenhouse desired
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine separate terraces; both want sunlight
House Design
Designer: Architect
What is particularly liked? The bright kitchen in the separate apartment
What is disliked? Long narrow hallway, living/dining area in the main residence
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: 650
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 700
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can be foregone: the second garage
Hello everyone,
After reading a lot here and planning for three months now, I’m trying to get some help.
The plot is complicated, maybe a bit narrow to also fit a separate apartment on the ground floor.
We are unsure how to “split” the plot.
Who should get the west or east side?
Which street should the house face?
The 5.5 m (18 ft) setback area on the north side suggests itself as the driveway/parking area. Also, no one wants a north-facing garden.
We all want sunlight somehow, but with further construction progress on other houses (marked in red) and the low sun angle, hardly any sun reaches the southern area.
The separate apartment really only needs a sunny terrace (because mowing the lawn will get harder with age).
I’ve simply added the architect’s two drafts here.
ypg schrieb:
Ok, all clear now. The attachment is displaying. Great, I was able to see it…. I’m still a forum newbie.
Since there was a slight overlap now:
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However, you are interpreting the zoning plan somewhat incorrectly. It only concerns the definition and the corresponding planting.
By the way: do you have more information from the zoning plan that we should know here?
Hausmma schrieb:
I like the entrance area, but unfortunately that probably isn’t possible, entrance and garden on the same side
..
However, you are interpreting the zoning plan somewhat incorrectly. It only concerns the definition and the corresponding planting.
By the way: do you have more information from the zoning plan that we should know here?
ypg schrieb:
Since there was some overlap now:
..
However, you are somewhat misinterpreting the development plan. It is only about the definition and the corresponding planting.
By the way: do you have more from the development plan that we should know here? Really?
I understood it as you can choose a front yard side for a corner lot – with numerous rules about how the front yard may be planted. That would be the west side in your suggestion. The garage may be placed in a side setback area – which would be the north side.
Thanks for the information.
The more you list as "must-haves" (breakfast in the sunshine, etc.), the less likely it becomes to get a good floor plan. I understand everyone’s reasons and also the concerns about the mother aging, the children, the need for an office, etc. All of these are valid but do create cost and planning challenges.
We also lived with our parents in the house for many years, and they themselves only wanted a small apartment in the basement. We didn’t want that because they provided us with equity, so we built them a (perhaps too) large apartment on the upper floor with a roof terrace and a great view.
There are too many factors and eventualities to consider, and in the end, things change again for grandma, the children, or in your own life.
Looking back and in my current environment, I hardly know anyone who in old age is completely unable to manage at least a few steps up or down, even if it takes them some time, which isn’t a problem.
We are currently driving to an assisted living facility for an elderly lady aged 89, who even refuses to use the elevator there.
In my experience, someone who absolutely cannot climb any stairs at all usually can’t leave their house alone either. That was the case with my father, whom we helped downstairs twice a week, and he enjoyed living upstairs until the end. Usually, other issues come to light that really cause problems, such as orientation difficulties, dementia, and so on.
What I want to say is that in your situation, I would seriously consider relocating the granny flat to the upper floor and, as a precaution, prepare the connections for a stairlift. From above, she surely has a good view, and you can plan more freely downstairs.
A good interior designer/architect could certainly design something like this for you, taking into account the varied needs as best as possible (family, grandma, possibly children moving out soon (then around 26 years old?).
Something like "breakfast in the sunshine,"
The more you list as "must-haves" (breakfast in the sunshine, etc.), the less likely it becomes to get a good floor plan. I understand everyone’s reasons and also the concerns about the mother aging, the children, the need for an office, etc. All of these are valid but do create cost and planning challenges.
We also lived with our parents in the house for many years, and they themselves only wanted a small apartment in the basement. We didn’t want that because they provided us with equity, so we built them a (perhaps too) large apartment on the upper floor with a roof terrace and a great view.
There are too many factors and eventualities to consider, and in the end, things change again for grandma, the children, or in your own life.
Looking back and in my current environment, I hardly know anyone who in old age is completely unable to manage at least a few steps up or down, even if it takes them some time, which isn’t a problem.
We are currently driving to an assisted living facility for an elderly lady aged 89, who even refuses to use the elevator there.
In my experience, someone who absolutely cannot climb any stairs at all usually can’t leave their house alone either. That was the case with my father, whom we helped downstairs twice a week, and he enjoyed living upstairs until the end. Usually, other issues come to light that really cause problems, such as orientation difficulties, dementia, and so on.
What I want to say is that in your situation, I would seriously consider relocating the granny flat to the upper floor and, as a precaution, prepare the connections for a stairlift. From above, she surely has a good view, and you can plan more freely downstairs.
A good interior designer/architect could certainly design something like this for you, taking into account the varied needs as best as possible (family, grandma, possibly children moving out soon (then around 26 years old?).
Something like "breakfast in the sunshine,"
Hausmma schrieb:
Really?Excerpts from the site development plan are of little use for a reader because the written regulations depend on each other and relate to the site plan. You would need to provide everything here to even determine whether there is a choice of street.
Arauki11 schrieb:
In my experience, someone who is no longer able to climb any stairs usually can’t even go outside the front door by themselves anymore, I agree with you. That’s why I always roll my eyes internally when convenience is confused with accessibility.
On the other hand, those who are able usually enjoy spending time outside up to the garden fence.
However, I don’t think the situation will improve:
Arauki11 schrieb:
It would actually be worth considering relocating the granny flat to the upper floor and pre-installing the connections for a stairlift as a precaution. From above, she would probably have a good view and you could plan more freely downstairs. More space for the main apartment, but upstairs there would then be the need for, for example, two children’s rooms/offices and the senior’s room.
As a result, you’d again have a large ground floor area that does not receive natural light in the center. Upstairs, there would be a roof terrace for the granny flat. There would still be only 3 meters (10 feet) of space around the house. It’s much of the same with drawbacks that largely push toward relocating the granny flat to the ground floor.
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