Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 537 sqm (5780 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio
Building area, building line and boundary 14.42/15.00 × 13.52/17.56 meters (47.3/49.2 × 44.4/57.6 feet)
Edge development Garages are allowed within the side setback areas
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 2
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern, simple
Orientation south
Maximum height/limits ridge height 10.5 m (34.4 ft)
Clients’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type 2 full floors, classic gable roof
Floors 2
Number of occupants 2 adults over 40 + 2 children (3 and 16), separate apartment: 1 person under 70
Ground floor room requirements: living/dining + L-shaped kitchen, guest toilet, utility/technical room
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, 2 offices, 2 bathrooms, laundry room
Separate apartment 3 rooms: living/dining, kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, small guest room
Office: 2 home offices
Overnight guests per year: separate apartment 10 times
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design
Open kitchen with island: semi-open, not directly visible from living area
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/soundproof wall no
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport at least 1, preferably 2
Utility garden, greenhouse desired
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine separate terraces; both want sunlight
House Design
Designer: Architect
What is particularly liked? The bright kitchen in the separate apartment
What is disliked? Long narrow hallway, living/dining area in the main residence
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: 650
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 700
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can be foregone: the second garage
Hello everyone,
After reading a lot here and planning for three months now, I’m trying to get some help.
The plot is complicated, maybe a bit narrow to also fit a separate apartment on the ground floor.
We are unsure how to “split” the plot.
Who should get the west or east side?
Which street should the house face?
The 5.5 m (18 ft) setback area on the north side suggests itself as the driveway/parking area. Also, no one wants a north-facing garden.
We all want sunlight somehow, but with further construction progress on other houses (marked in red) and the low sun angle, hardly any sun reaches the southern area.
The separate apartment really only needs a sunny terrace (because mowing the lawn will get harder with age).
I’ve simply added the architect’s two drafts here.
Plot size 537 sqm (5780 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio
Building area, building line and boundary 14.42/15.00 × 13.52/17.56 meters (47.3/49.2 × 44.4/57.6 feet)
Edge development Garages are allowed within the side setback areas
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 2
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern, simple
Orientation south
Maximum height/limits ridge height 10.5 m (34.4 ft)
Clients’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type 2 full floors, classic gable roof
Floors 2
Number of occupants 2 adults over 40 + 2 children (3 and 16), separate apartment: 1 person under 70
Ground floor room requirements: living/dining + L-shaped kitchen, guest toilet, utility/technical room
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, 2 offices, 2 bathrooms, laundry room
Separate apartment 3 rooms: living/dining, kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, small guest room
Office: 2 home offices
Overnight guests per year: separate apartment 10 times
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design
Open kitchen with island: semi-open, not directly visible from living area
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/soundproof wall no
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport at least 1, preferably 2
Utility garden, greenhouse desired
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine separate terraces; both want sunlight
House Design
Designer: Architect
What is particularly liked? The bright kitchen in the separate apartment
What is disliked? Long narrow hallway, living/dining area in the main residence
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: 650
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 700
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can be foregone: the second garage
Hello everyone,
After reading a lot here and planning for three months now, I’m trying to get some help.
The plot is complicated, maybe a bit narrow to also fit a separate apartment on the ground floor.
We are unsure how to “split” the plot.
Who should get the west or east side?
Which street should the house face?
The 5.5 m (18 ft) setback area on the north side suggests itself as the driveway/parking area. Also, no one wants a north-facing garden.
We all want sunlight somehow, but with further construction progress on other houses (marked in red) and the low sun angle, hardly any sun reaches the southern area.
The separate apartment really only needs a sunny terrace (because mowing the lawn will get harder with age).
I’ve simply added the architect’s two drafts here.
ypg schrieb:
I’m not doing that at all. What do you want? I said ...
11ant schrieb:
Your building composition makes me think whether a corner-attached mother-in-law unit, like @KingSong’s https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/meinungen-zu-unserem-grundriss-entwurf-erwuenscht.23977/page-9#post-224438, might fit here. ... and then you ...
ypg schrieb:
The building envelope isn’t big enough for that. ... but it actually works for the concept, just not for a 1:1 adoption of the linked inspiration. As you yourself have acknowledged:
ypg schrieb:
That’s exactly what I’ve been doing all along – gradually moving away from the multi-story villa, which will actually have a pitched roof here.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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hanghaus202330 Oct 2024 12:14Hello @ypg I’ve made some quick notes on your plan—don’t take them too seriously.
The terrace can also be designed separately. Perhaps the small projection from the upper floor could serve as a covered entrance? However, having the hallway in the center is probably better. If you create a visualization, I would like to see that version.
I really like the design.
Sometimes I don’t quite understand the “elephant” either. You show the stepped-back upper floor, then the idea comes up again in the next post.
The terrace can also be designed separately. Perhaps the small projection from the upper floor could serve as a covered entrance? However, having the hallway in the center is probably better. If you create a visualization, I would like to see that version.
I really like the design.
Sometimes I don’t quite understand the “elephant” either. You show the stepped-back upper floor, then the idea comes up again in the next post.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
The small projection from the upper floor, maybe as a porch cover? That was exactly the plan, although due to its size not for the main entrance, but for the garbage area.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
The hallway in the middle is probably better though. Yes, I don’t find the offset very suitable for seniors.
The south-facing terrace is obviously right at the property boundary. But you can and should separate with privacy screens and greenery.
However, I don’t want to set anything in stone; often many things can be swapped or positioned differently. Only if the square meters are tight, the daily routine should be able to flow smoothly within the design.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
Sometimes I don’t understand the elephant either. You show the stepped floor. Then he brings up the idea in the next post. Yes, it’s not the first time.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
I really like the design.I also think the idea is very good. It makes sense to build it this way, plus the garden will be a much better space... ypg schrieb:
That was exactly the plan, not for the entrance due to the size, but for the trash bins.Okay, I don’t need to cover the trash bins, and having them right next to the entrance isn’t ideal either. ypg schrieb:
Only if square meters are tight.You can definitely save a few square meters there. ypg schrieb:
The south-facing terrace is very close to the property boundary.Yes, it’s quite shaded there. But the morning sun should reach it. Maybe we won’t have much sun in the garden later on.
Hausmma schrieb:
Maybe we won’t have much sun in the garden later on.That doesn’t have to be a disadvantage, considering the past few years – having shade was very much appreciated.hanghaus2023 schrieb:
Sometimes I don’t understand the elephant either.Rest assured: if I considered myself normal, I would see a doctor. The process went like this:hanghaus2023 schrieb:
You show the attic floor. Then he introduces the idea in the next post.I see Yvonne’s post #40, and the building composition makes me think of the original bungalow. Then my phone rings, I have to get back to work—my day isn’t just about the forum, especially not on monitor 1. Meanwhile, I dig through my memories to recall where or who that was … Jura house … ah yes, it was called KingSong … I’ll look it up and link it later. Meanwhile, life and working hours continue, and no one has paused the internet. When I finally find the time to write again, several more posts have appeared, which is not a problem. As long as no harm is done beyond the accurate impression that the old white man isn’t the fastest, so what. Sometimes I act as the memory here, but never as the official realtime speed moderator.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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