Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size 537 sqm (5780 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio
Building area, building line and boundary 14.42/15.00 × 13.52/17.56 meters (47.3/49.2 × 44.4/57.6 feet)
Edge development Garages are allowed within the side setback areas
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 2
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern, simple
Orientation south
Maximum height/limits ridge height 10.5 m (34.4 ft)
Clients’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type 2 full floors, classic gable roof
Floors 2
Number of occupants 2 adults over 40 + 2 children (3 and 16), separate apartment: 1 person under 70
Ground floor room requirements: living/dining + L-shaped kitchen, guest toilet, utility/technical room
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, 2 offices, 2 bathrooms, laundry room
Separate apartment 3 rooms: living/dining, kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, small guest room
Office: 2 home offices
Overnight guests per year: separate apartment 10 times
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design
Open kitchen with island: semi-open, not directly visible from living area
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/soundproof wall no
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport at least 1, preferably 2
Utility garden, greenhouse desired
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine separate terraces; both want sunlight
House Design
Designer: Architect
What is particularly liked? The bright kitchen in the separate apartment
What is disliked? Long narrow hallway, living/dining area in the main residence
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: 650
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 700
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can be foregone: the second garage
Hello everyone,
After reading a lot here and planning for three months now, I’m trying to get some help.
The plot is complicated, maybe a bit narrow to also fit a separate apartment on the ground floor.
We are unsure how to “split” the plot.
Who should get the west or east side?
Which street should the house face?
The 5.5 m (18 ft) setback area on the north side suggests itself as the driveway/parking area. Also, no one wants a north-facing garden.
We all want sunlight somehow, but with further construction progress on other houses (marked in red) and the low sun angle, hardly any sun reaches the southern area.
The separate apartment really only needs a sunny terrace (because mowing the lawn will get harder with age).
I’ve simply added the architect’s two drafts here.
Plot size 537 sqm (5780 sq ft)
Slope no
Site coverage ratio 0.35
Floor area ratio
Building area, building line and boundary 14.42/15.00 × 13.52/17.56 meters (47.3/49.2 × 44.4/57.6 feet)
Edge development Garages are allowed within the side setback areas
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 2
Roof type gable roof
Architectural style modern, simple
Orientation south
Maximum height/limits ridge height 10.5 m (34.4 ft)
Clients’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type 2 full floors, classic gable roof
Floors 2
Number of occupants 2 adults over 40 + 2 children (3 and 16), separate apartment: 1 person under 70
Ground floor room requirements: living/dining + L-shaped kitchen, guest toilet, utility/technical room
Upper floor: 3 bedrooms, 2 offices, 2 bathrooms, laundry room
Separate apartment 3 rooms: living/dining, kitchen, bathroom, bedroom, small guest room
Office: 2 home offices
Overnight guests per year: separate apartment 10 times
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design
Open kitchen with island: semi-open, not directly visible from living area
Number of dining seats 6
Fireplace no
Music/soundproof wall no
Balcony, roof terrace
Garage, carport at least 1, preferably 2
Utility garden, greenhouse desired
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine separate terraces; both want sunlight
House Design
Designer: Architect
What is particularly liked? The bright kitchen in the separate apartment
What is disliked? Long narrow hallway, living/dining area in the main residence
Estimated cost according to architect/planner: 650
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 700
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can be foregone: the second garage
Hello everyone,
After reading a lot here and planning for three months now, I’m trying to get some help.
The plot is complicated, maybe a bit narrow to also fit a separate apartment on the ground floor.
We are unsure how to “split” the plot.
Who should get the west or east side?
Which street should the house face?
The 5.5 m (18 ft) setback area on the north side suggests itself as the driveway/parking area. Also, no one wants a north-facing garden.
We all want sunlight somehow, but with further construction progress on other houses (marked in red) and the low sun angle, hardly any sun reaches the southern area.
The separate apartment really only needs a sunny terrace (because mowing the lawn will get harder with age).
I’ve simply added the architect’s two drafts here.
Hausmma schrieb:
I sketched roughly with a pencil and tried again to fit everything into a 12x12m (39x39 ft) footprint. But I always get stuck on the long hallway. May I share my rough draft?
Assuming we stay around 12x12m (39x39 ft).
The secondary apartment is on the east side.
And the partition wall in between is not continuous.
My thoughts:
We have the kitchen facing south, and the dining table is placed to enjoy the western view.
So, the terrace side could be chosen accordingly.
The sofa ideally shouldn’t be positioned directly in front of a window anyway.
But this creates a hallway almost 5m (16 ft) long.
Where should the stairs go? And what shape should they have?
11ant schrieb:
Your building composition makes me wonder if a mother-in-law unit placed at a corner, like in @KingSong https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/meinungen-zu-unserem-grundriss-entwurf-erwuenscht.23977/page-9#post-224438, would fit here. The building envelope is not large enough for that.
Hausmma schrieb:
But keep in mind:
Two roofs are also expensive / gable roof?
A lot of built-up area (floor area ratio 0.35) Yes, but a lean-to roof is cheaper than finished living space, which also has to be covered.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
It’s really a shame that @ypg’s design is not within the building zone. Hausmma schrieb:
The building boundary on the east side is not parallel at 3 m (10 feet) to the property line. Yes, that bothers me too. I’m working on it. Spoiler alert: the layout of the granny flat in the light blue design is already close to optimal if it’s going to remain a secondary unit.
ypg schrieb:
The building envelope isn’t sufficient for that.I’m not talking about the same dimensions either; it’s just about the conceptual approach—moving away from the "bottom as large as the top" box villa, making the upper floor more like a recessed top floor, and having a ground floor large enough so it can be “shared as equals.”https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
ypg schrieb:
Because of the large east-facing garden, and really only for that reason, I changed the window sizes.Ah yes—that definitely creates a much nicer garden area again.
But the terraces together... phew, no—that’s not my thing.
11ant schrieb:
I’m not talking about the same dimensions, it’s just about the conceptual approach of moving away from the “upstairs and downstairs the same size” two-story villa, making the upper floor more like a recessed floor, and having the ground floor large enough to be shared “equally.”So I understood it that with that prefab house manufacturer, a large rectangular house actually costs less than more unusual shapes.Similar topics