ᐅ Oven connection not routed through RCD/GFCI despite presence – is rewiring advisable?

Created on: 27 Aug 2022 13:49
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DReffects
DReffects27 Aug 2022 13:49
Hello,

I'm currently replacing the kitchen and noticed that despite the protective earth conductor in the stove connection box, the RCD does not trip, and the stove box still has power even when the RCD is switched off.

A look inside the distribution panel shows:
The three phases to the three 16A fuses come directly from above at the RCD to the fuses, not from below, so they are positioned before the RCD.

Two questions: why was it done this way?
Is it now sufficient to simply connect the three fuses below the RCD?

Photo attached

Thank you

Electrical distribution panel with several circuit breakers, cables, and mounting rails.
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RotorMotor
27 Aug 2022 14:53
A glass cooktop usually does not require an RCD.
I would not recommend rewiring it.
1. You are not allowed to.
2. RCDs are only rated up to 40A (amperes).
So you would need a larger one or a separate circuit.
But why go through all that? What exactly are you trying to protect?
DReffects27 Aug 2022 15:07
RotorMotor schrieb:

A glass cooktop usually doesn’t require an RCD.
I wouldn’t recommend rewiring it.
1. You’re not allowed
2. RCDs are only rated up to 40A
So you’d need a bigger or a dedicated one.
But why go through all that? What exactly are you trying to protect?

The new kitchen setup includes:
Oven, single phase, max. 3400 watts, hardwired with 3 conductors (including protective earth)

2-zone built-in induction cooktop with a Schuko socket, 3200 watts

Refrigerator (Schuko)

Ducted extractor fan (Europlug)

The plan was:
L1 - Oven
L2 - Socket (cooktop)
L3 - Socket (refrigerator and extractor fan)

What do you think?
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teh_M
27 Aug 2022 15:33
40A per phase at the RCBO, also pre-fused with 16A. I would rewire it (or have it rewired 😉 ).
However, I would have installed the pre-fuse as a 3-phase circuit breaker.
Just my amateur opinion.
DReffects27 Aug 2022 16:28
teh_M schrieb:

40A per phase at the RCD, also pre-fused with 16A. I would rewire it (or have it rewired 😉 ).
However, I would have used a three-phase circuit breaker for the pre-fusing.
Just my amateur opinion.
Thanks for the info!! Is there a reason to use end sleeves with the cables used here, or would 2.5mm² (4 AWG) copper wire also be acceptable?
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RotorMotor
27 Aug 2022 16:34
So now it’s not just the stove but the whole kitchen?

Oven etc. must not be connected without an RCD!

Please don’t try to do it yourself.

I can’t see the fuse in this photo.
I only see an RCD that already handles 2x16A per phase and therefore cannot support an additional 16A.