ᐅ Convert a Single-Family Home into an Urban Villa?

Created on: 17 Oct 2020 14:25
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MiCasaEsSuCasa
Hello again,

We have an appointment with a home builder next week. So right now, we are deeply involved in planning to be able to present as clear ideas as possible next week.
We went through all the floor plans on the company’s website, and actually only one fits our needs. The problem is: it’s designed as a single-family house, but we would prefer a town villa. The floor plan itself is almost square, so it could work well with the town villa style.
Now to my question: Would a builder be willing to adapt this floor plan for a town villa? Of course, the upper floor would need to be higher and a hip roof instead of a gable roof would be required. We understand this would involve additional cost. But in theory, it would still be more cost-effective than starting with a town villa floor plan that we would have to change a lot until it matches the one we like.
What do you think? Do builders do such adjustments? If not, we will look for other plans today and tomorrow, so that’s why I’m asking here.

Best regards!
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pagoni2020
17 Oct 2020 15:58
Oops... sorry, I hope that didn’t come across the wrong way.
I have partly noticed how people get caught up in such terms and, unfortunately, end up subordinating their own needs to them.
Maybe you could start your discussions with your floor plan from the beginning, instead of choosing a model first and then trying to “force” it to fit.
Yes, this is quite common here... unfortunately often because these models provide a more or less fixed shape, which frequently leads to issues in the interior design.
You will see to what extent the company will accommodate your floor plan.
11ant17 Oct 2020 16:28
Why I refer to the "city villas" as alternative villas doesn’t need to be discussed here, I think.
MiCasaEsSuCasa schrieb:

The company is febro, and the model we like in terms of the floor plan is called "Haus Coburg." We do not want to redesign the floor plan, only convert the upper floor into a full story and put the appropriate roof on top.

What exactly is the planning goal here? I don’t see any reason to reduce the upper floor of just 69 sqm (740 sq ft) along with the 74 sqm (796 sq ft) below. I expect that the wall between the child’s room and the bedroom or the child’s room and the bathroom would then have to be load-bearing. Which type of construction (thermo brick / porous brick / sand-lime brick) are you planning to use?
The cost will definitely be significantly higher than just a ratio of 148 to 143. It might end up closer to the model "Florence" (154 sqm / 1,657 sq ft), while technically the "Modena" model would be more similar.
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MiCasaEsSuCasa
17 Oct 2020 17:09
pagoni2020 schrieb:

Oops... sorry, I hope that wasn’t taken the wrong way.
I’ve just sometimes seen how people get hung up on such terms and unfortunately end up subordinating their own needs to them.
Maybe you could start the discussions right away with your floor plan instead of first choosing a model and then trying to “force” it to fit.
Yes, that is common here... unfortunately often because these have more or less fixed shapes that frequently cause problems with the interior design.
You’ll see how much the company responds to your floor plan.

No, it’s all good.
Yes, we’ll have to see if they are flexible enough so that you don’t have to base everything on one of their models but rather on the floor plan.

11ant schrieb:

Why I call the “town villas” keeps out of scope here, I think.

What is the planning goal? — I don’t see any reason to reduce the approximately 69 sqm (743 sq ft) upstairs and 74 sqm (797 sq ft) downstairs shown here. I also assume the wall between the child/bedroom and child/bathroom will have to be load-bearing. Which option (thermal brick / porous brick / calcium silicate brick) are you planning to build with?
Price-wise it will be quite a bit more than just 148:143. It might end up around the “Florence” model (154 sqm / 1657 sq ft), technically the “Modena” model is closer.

The planning goal is simply to have a house with two full stories but with this floor plan. We are not fans of sloped roofs or gable roofs. It is clear to us that town villas are basically substitute villas; we’re not after luxury, just the house style and shape. The slightly Mediterranean style simply appeals to us.
Honestly, we haven’t thought about the construction method yet. We’re quite inexperienced in that and plan to get advice next week.
The Florence model is out of our budget and doesn’t fit the floor plan either.
What do you mean by “technically” regarding Modena?
Mycraft17 Oct 2020 17:15
Ah, now we also know who the main contractor is. I have been to the Florenz several times. Personally, I found it too small, mainly because of the smaller upper floor. But from what I see now, it seems to have been expanded and is now larger.
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ypg
17 Oct 2020 17:32
@pagoni2020
In post #5, you shared many links from Wiki. I was previously warned for doing the same.
Maybe it’s best to apologize to the admin now before you get banned?
11ant17 Oct 2020 17:38
MiCasaEsSuCasa schrieb:

To be honest, we haven’t really thought about that option yet. We’re quite inexperienced and will get some advice next week.
The Florenz model is not an option for us, neither price-wise nor in terms of the floor plan.
What do you mean by “technical” regarding the Modena?

Regarding the thermal wall variant with formwork blocks, the construction method would be comparable to the one you will find with the search term "Kern-Haus," including several warnings from homeowners. Otherwise, Febro offers porous bricks or sand-lime bricks, and just based on feeling, I would say the porous bricks perform better. The Modena would be structurally more similar to your base model as a “replacement villa” than the Florenz with 154 sqm (1650 sq ft), which in my expectation is conceptually less comparable, among other reasons because it has an angled load-bearing wall. You will be close to the Modena in price, but slightly above with 148 sqm (1593 sq ft); the Modena has 145 sqm (1561 sq ft).
ypg schrieb:

@pagoni2020
You posted many links through Wiki in #5. I got a warning for that before.
Maybe apologize to the admin in advance before you get banned?

Or ask them to clean up the text accordingly. When you copy and paste text from Wikipedia word for word, the blue highlighted words are always linked :-/
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