ᐅ Construction supervision through a homeowners’ protection association, private builders’ organization, technical inspection agency (such as TÜV or DEKRA), independent expert, or another option...?

Created on: 2 Dec 2015 16:04
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Bauexperte
A friendly hello to everyone,

who doesn’t know it... or has at least read or heard somewhere: external construction supervision is supposed to help avoid trouble/problems during the adventure of building a house!

Since this topic often comes up in discussions, I would like to ask you to share your personal experiences with experts or associations on the way to your own home in this thread:
  • Why did you hire external construction supervision?
  • Which expert did you work with?
  • How many inspections (at which stage of the construction process) did you arrange?
  • What did it cost?
  • What are your experiences?
  • Would you make the same decision again?

Homeowners who consciously decided against external supervision:
  • Why did you choose not to use an expert?
  • What are your experiences?
  • Would you decide the same way again?

As this thread fills up with contributions (which I hope it will), I will pin it at the top of this section. Then every potential homeowner – before starting their project – can get information on the pros and cons of both options.

Thanks for your support!

Best regards, Bauexperte
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nightdancer
25 Sep 2016 19:37
ypg schrieb:


The architect, that’s my point, will contact the companies _of his choice_ in his tenders..........


Your architect may have done that, but otherwise, this is a borderline accusation!

My architect sends out a joint list of tradespeople. He proposes some, and I propose some. Then there are tradespeople he doesn’t want or ones I don’t want. These are then possibly removed from the list. I participate in the evaluation of the offers, and I make the final decision on awarding the contract – after all, it’s my money being spent. I am the client, I am the builder, I am the boss, I am the decision maker. The architect is my service provider and must represent my interests. That is what he is paid for and also liable for. This is what sets him apart from building inspectors like TÜV, DEKRA, and others. The latter try to limit their liability to the amount of their fee. The architect cannot do that!
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Seb08
26 Sep 2016 07:20
nightdancer schrieb:
Only the energy-related measures fall under the responsibility of the KFW building supervisor.

However, that does not mean there aren’t building supervisors who oversee the entire project, including the energy-related measures.
Or does it actually come down to having two building supervisors?

What makes sense? What are your experiences?
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nightdancer
26 Sep 2016 08:47
Seb08 schrieb:
That doesn’t mean there aren’t building supervisors who provide full support – including energy efficiency measures.
Or does it actually mean you end up with two building supervisors?

What makes sense? What are your experiences?

If the architect and energy consultant are the same person, then you only have one building supervisor; otherwise, you have two.
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Seb08
26 Sep 2016 08:52
For me, this means that if I fully trust my architect and they are also a certified energy consultant, part of their fee can be covered by KfW subsidies for a construction supervisor (up to 4000.00€ (around 4300 USD))?

Does that make sense?

It seems more reasonable to me to have an independent construction supervisor who is not affiliated with the architect or any of the involved companies (for example, through the Homeowners Protection Association). Ideally, this person should also be a certified energy consultant recognized by KfW.

If they are not, do I need to bring a third party on board...?

Best regards,
Sebastian
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nightdancer
26 Sep 2016 08:59
That's correct, this applies to the construction supervisor costs eligible for KfW funding. Hiring an additional construction supervisor from DEKRA or similar organizations is a waste of money, because a) they do not visit often enough anyway, b) they limit their own liability, c) it duplicates efforts, and d) it incurs extra costs. It is better to have the architect and energy consultant separate; this way you get double the input already during the planning phase without additional costs.
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Seb08
26 Sep 2016 13:49
nightdancer schrieb:
Hiring a construction supervisor from DEKRA and similar companies is a waste of money,...

What do you mean by "and similar companies"?

We were probably considering the Building Owners’ Protection Association or the Private Homeowners’ Association.

Or would it be better to choose someone truly independent?

It should then ideally combine construction supervision and energy consulting in one.

Regards,
Sebastian